Hair And Drug Testing Rule Could Become Public Early 2020

I can absolutely see this being challenged on EOE race discrimination grounds. I think it's pretty well known that Black people's hair takes much longer to clear the test than Whites'.

 

i can "see" a huge problem with that.

it can start MORE citizens rights groups, and lobbyists to go to DC and make for MORE rulings, and regulations for the CDL drivers.

hey you know, i have said it more than once in other threads..

"we" meaning the truck drivers, did this to our selves. "we" let it happen. "we" did not police ourselves"

"We" let others do it TO US and FOR US.....

so who is ultimately to blame..???

so glad, i retired, but then again, i never drove stoned, or drunk. but way too many have come here griping on how it's their time off, they should be able to do what they want.

batten down the hatches boys and girls...you're all in for one hell of a future.

that you ain't gonna like

 

Bottle up. Bottoms up. Gonna need a swig after all these regulatory headaches. /snarky

 

Fent is extremely lethal.

I have been provided Fent twice by patch in my lifetime 8 months ago and 18 months ago. The first time the body liked it and I thought I was 14 again for 3 days pain free. It oughta be, the king of pain medicine. The top shelf the big bad drug. Powerful. If you shook out a salt shaker on your table and picked up maybe 3 of those little white grain peices? thats enough fent to kill you and your family. My dose was smaller than that. Maybe one of those grains.

The second time I developed a reaction to it and it went after my breathing center in the brainstem. They had to introduce a fluid chloride into IV fast and push to flush the fent out asap as I was dying on that bed right there. Once it got flushed breathing and all that is life came back up. So Fent almost killed me essentially. Its a medicine on my no take list.

If they introduced fent by IV for immediate major trauma pain? Your mind goes offline. So its a wonder we have it for those that really need it.

The basic problem with fent today is that you can get it in China like you buy coffee. Its unregulated. Xi and Trump has been talking about making China regulate Fent the way we do here. And eliminate the flooding of our streets when our drug dealers mix drugs with fent killing upwards of 400,000 in the last decade so far. Its a form of chemical warfare. If we were attacked today and lost 400,000 we would cry out to turn the enemy nation into a parking lot. But it's the slow drip drip drip of deaths in ones and twos over a week or less at a time that we don't really notice.

 

Do you have a link or an actual reference to back up that statement?

 

I have never heard or had that but my doctor prescribed me 1.5 ccs of morphine right out of high school to take every day from when I had 2 different types of injuries that I will deal with the rest of my life and that stuff made me feel Invincible for 30 minutes then puking my guts up for 30 minutes to a hour then felt like I could do anything the rest of the day and after less than a week i noticed that I was addicted to it and stopped taking it and my doctor called the cops on me for refusing to take pain meds and muscle relaxants and that was only 10 years ago there are days that i have a hard time even getting out of bed but i don't even take tylenol

 

Case alleging racial bias in hair tests goes to trial
It's currently being litigated and is contentious and not a solved issue, but the common advice I've seen here and elsewhere is that Blacks often can test positive 6 or more months after use, where it's typically less than 3 for Whites. There was a study on the NIH site, but only the abstract was available publicly. That was a 1999 study.

 

..... surely you’re kidding right?
Why would your doctor call the cops for a patient not taking medication?

Gotta get my boots on for this puddle of ######## here. Where do you live at or did live when this happened?

Seriously I gotta know this one, because in the entire history of pharmacology and medicine, you’ll be the only one on this planet that cops showed up for because of a medicinal refusal.

A few reasons apply, but also once upon a time I was gonna be a police officer so I know a little something about that...

Firstly, that is what’s called a civil matter and not a criminal act, so police have zero legal precedent to go by, thus no role to play in this scenario.

The hospital, or PCP you’re at would first call in psyc to do an initial assessment as to the patients mental status, and escalate there internally should further action be required. From there if it’s determined you’re a danger to yourself or others, they would do what’s called a non voluntary psy admittance 72hr hold commonly referred to as a Baker Act.

Even still through all of that, they wouldn’t call the cops unless it was a physical altercation or threat posture, but not for medicine refusal.

Secondly, there’s a thing called the Hippocratic Oath, and also HIPPA.

He would be violating them both by calling for police, because you have what’s called a Medical confidentiality patient doctor relationship.

The only time this does not apply, is when they have either evidentiary data, or reasonable suspicion that a crime has either taken place or is going to such as murder, child abuse, self harm such as suicide.....think you get the point......but that mostly applies to therapists and physiologist cases.

Even in a baker act medicine refusal is not a required entry. Criteria are not met simply because a person has a mental illness, appears to have mental problems, takes psychiatric medication, has an emotional outburst, or refuses voluntary examination.