some advise for newbies from a rookie

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by NKR75, Nov 29, 2006.

  1. NKR75

    NKR75 Bobtail Member

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    Hi Im Nate & brand new to the forums. I'm 31 yrs. old & trained with Werner for a month from 10/12 - 11/13. I know I am still new, but I know I can help people out that are new or thinking about truck driving for a living.
    1- Obtaining your class A CDL. From my experience & talking with MANY drivers(both new & experienced), I would highly recommend an independent school & not company paid training(CDL mills). I got lucky with my school in the sense that it only cost me 3,100 dollars for the entire 4 week course & there were only 2 other students in the class with me & the instructors were great(we still keep in touch). I have a couple friends that went to a different school in the St. Louis area & ended up paying twice as much! I advise you to shop around for the best price in your area & find out how long the course is. The longer the better. There is a lot you are going to need to know in this industry. If you decide to go with company paid training, be VERY careful what you sign & agree to. I have talked to several people out there who really got the screw obtaining your CDL this way AND your commited to that company.
    2- Choosing a company to work for. First & foremost, if possible, go with a company that has a full service terminal close(within 50 miles of your home). Nothing, & I mean nothing is more grueling than riding on a bus for a long distance. Even if the company has somewhat of a shady reputation, I believe it is worth going with a company as close to home as you can get. I say this because: 1- well over half of new drivers don't even make it through training. If you get started & it doesn't work out, TELL them to get you back to the terminal that is close to your home. 2- If it does work out for you, if you take off for longer than a week, you can take the truck back to the home terminal & start your vacation sooner. I don't know other companies procedure, but Werner says you have to leave the truck at a terminal & take a bus home if your going to be off-duty for 7 days or more. I found it very discouraging that once I got my CDL only 10 companies are so were willing to hire students. It seems that all of the high paying & local companies want at least 1 years experience. I understand why they do this(insurance), but a year is a long time to be stuck working for peanuts & being away from home for long periods at a time.
    3- Heading off for orientation & training. BE PREPARED, your company will tell you a list of items to bring(&not to bring). Make sure you have every item they tell you to bring. Expect your initial time away from home 4-5 weeks. As far as trainers go. From what I can tell, it is mostly luck of the draw. My trainer taught me a lot. He was pretty cool most of the time. Towards the end(the last 10 days or so) he paid for most of my meals(probably because he won $900.00 gambling in Albequerqe). He was a very impatient man though & very kranky towards people in general. I considered completing my training(275 hrs.) in one lump sum but I reached a point where I had to get out of there. For a trainer, he was way too impatient in my opinion. If you do get a bad trainer, CONTACT YOUR STUDENT DRVER MANAGER IMMEDIATELY. Don't let it drag on too long & report the problem you had, that's with any company.
    All in all, in my brief time behind the wheel, I would have to tell people starting in this industry or thinking about it, I don't have a lot of good things to say about it whether it's waiting at a shipper for hours on end on a regular basis & not getting paid, not having a good nights sleep in 5 weeks, road construction EVERYWHERE it seems, heavy traffic, & bad drivers just to name a few. On the other hand you do get to SEE a good deal of the country( you don't get to do much), you are doing a very important job, & you don't have annoying co-workers bugging you every day. Finally I would recommend reading on this site: "New Drivers"(especially about the recruiters), "company warnings", "good & bad", "good trucking companies", & especially "Special Reports"- "Truck Driver Shortage" Small Wonder... & "Detention Times". The forums on this site seem to be helpful too. Thanks for reading my post & GOOD LUCK!
     
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  3. GreenLite

    GreenLite Bobtail Member

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    Thxs for posting on behalf of all the newbie's and growing rookies!
    I graduated locally in Albuquerque (BTW,we want our 900 bucks back ):toothy10:
    and it's a great feeling knowing when you apply at a company,you won't have to sign a year contract.
    i've got 3 months under my belt now and and can't wait for the following morning to drive again.Sadistic,maybe,i just plain love the smell of diesel,
    and when i get on I-25 or I-40,i make it a point to wave at other truck drivers(they may not wave back,that's ok too ) and if i'm going too slow,i gladly slide to the next lane and letem by.
    so thnxs again Nate and good luck to you.
     
  4. kc0rey

    kc0rey Medium Load Member

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    I always wave at other drivers.......even the 4 wheelers now that I don't drive a truck anymore....
    2 reasons:


    1. It may make somebodies day.........And it costs nothing.

    2. I want to insure another driver is looking at me when I am in an area that they can cause me harm. Motion attracts the human eye and a wave of the hand is a motion that catches peoples eye.
     
  5. NKR75

    NKR75 Bobtail Member

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    I will also advise newbies, if possible, start your school/training in March or April for the obvious reason you won't have to drive in the cold/ice/snow for at least 7-8 months. By that time, if you stay with it, you should have enough experience under your belt to get something local, regional, or dedicated(depending where you live) and you won't have to do all 48 states & probably Canada in the wintertime. It may not bother you to drive & work in the ice & snow, but me, a person who has lived in Florida for the past 8 years, I don't care if I ever drive in it again. Also when choosing a company, if they constantly have ads in the local paper or on tv, that should behoove you to stay away. From this website, these forums, word of mouth from other drivers & friends, & my own personal experience, I am going to list all of the companies by name now to stay away from. You have been forewarned.

    1-Swift- Phoenix,AZ.
    2-Werner Enterprises-Omaha,NE
    3-J.B. Hunt-Lowell,ARK
    4-U.S.A. Truck-Van Buren ARK.
    5-USXpress-Chatanooga,TN
    6-Covenant Transport-Chatanooga,TN
    7-C.R. England-Salt Lake City, UT
    8-Prime, Inc.-Springfield,MO
    9-Eagle Motor Lines(Southern Cal)-Birmingham, AL
    10-Moskowitz Motor Transportation-Plainfield,NJ
    11-Stevens Transport

    I have also heard lately to be leery of P.A.M. & TMC(the flatbed company out of Des Moines,IA). The ONLY reason to consider working for any of the above companies is if they have a full service terminal AND orientation within 30 minutes from your home. Even then, think it through. I wish someone would have given me the advise I have posted on this thread when I was starting out. Again, thanks for reading my post ang good luck!
     
  6. redrocker1055

    redrocker1055 Light Load Member

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    Your dead on, whenever i have to make a tight turn( you will always see the fear of god in people in cars) i will wave at the people in the car, so they think i know what i am doing(even when i don't.lol. you can actualy see them calm down.
     
  7. Harryjr71

    Harryjr71 Bobtail Member

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    Wow you learn something new everyday.I've lived in Plainfield for 20 yrs and never saw the company you put in slot number 10.
     
  8. GreenLite

    GreenLite Bobtail Member

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    I must have done something right,none of those listed comapnies are on my list :biggrin:
    However,i'm kicking Schnieder and a couple local LTL companies some thoughts.
    Btw,thanks for all advised posted here,most valuable asset to have is info.

    joe
     
  9. mrpar300

    mrpar300 Bobtail Member

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    1st of all its good to see some of the new breed drivers have a good attidude. myself i always make somebody laugh or smile its good 4 ya.Now my sugestion is 1st get at least 6mo-1yr exper.during this time try to decide weather you want to work local or otr you can make just as much $ either way if your married i sugest local ( my son made 82,000 working local last yr) you just have to no where to look.after you get some EXP under your belt you can go for the high paying jobs.Remember no tickets no accidents is like a 900 credit rating YOU pick where you want to work. then if you decide to go on the road ask yourself what do i want 1 fast truck 2 good pay 3 home time . I like helping new drivers and give them some of my knowledge so they mite not make some wrong turns . i.ll try to answer what i can i,m home m-thurs be safe MRPAR
     
  10. OceansideHog

    OceansideHog Bobtail Member

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    mrpar may I ask who for and what type of driving did your son do that paid that much per year? Just curious and you don't have to provide the actual employer name. From these forums I have gathered one will need at the least a year of experience to get better pay and once I have that, I will be looking to make as much as possible. Thanks.
     
  11. mrpar300

    mrpar300 Bobtail Member

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    oceanside when i lived in calif. i always said working for a manufactor is a better job ( but not always)my self i worked for one for 17yrs would still be there BUT nestles bought us and disolved the trans dept. now to my son well I told him 3 places to go to and he would make 60k or better he,s been there 12yrs now he delivers to mostly fast food rest. 4 12hr days and usally a extra run at dble timeplus cash in his sick days and safty bounes BOOM 80k i know but he showed me his w-2 he normal is about 65-75k the key is accidents and tickets don,t get em. Hey bud when you get a year in i,ll tell ya a bunch of places to go ( good jobs )if you live in so cal. there are MANY good jobs there.but ya gotta pay your dues and get what ya can for a year BUT that don,t mean you work for peanuts. good luck mrpar300
     
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