Few questions

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Buffalo444, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. Buffalo444

    Buffalo444 Light Load Member

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    I'm working on getting my CDL (just down to figuring out which class i'm going to register for, April or May) and have a few questions.

    One: Who to drive for. I've had one former Gordon trucking driver talk up Gordon a LOT, and looked into that, really grilled the recruiter. My grandfather (35 years, 3.5 million safe driving miles experience) said he didn't know much about them, that the pay was mid 90's level pay (30 cpm first 6 months after training, 32 cpm 6-12 months, up to 34 cpm after a year) and that I should be able to get a job somewhere else starting off making a good 34-38 cpm even as a new driver. He said to look into both Schneider and Henderson trucking, but I can't get information on their pay/benefits/etc as easily as I could from GTI. I saw Crete/Shaffer in a magazine (idek whats is called... it O/O on one side and Company Driver on the other... basically a bunch of ads for driver jobs) and the website says must be 22 to apply (I'm 21 and will be for about 5 months after I graduate school) and they looked interesting, but again, hard to find pay/benefits/etc info... I would like to haul flatbed, as it seems that pays well and tends to be valuable experience wise when hunting for other jobs (or going into hotshotting... but thats another story). So i guess what I'm asking is.... what am I looking for? Right now my favorite is Gordon, but if i can get same/better pay + benefits, with a better tag for my resume I'm all for it.

    Two: Moving across country. Right now I live in southern IL, but within the next year or two I want to move to Laramie, WY. This is one of the reasons I favorite Gordon. The recruiter said I could work with my fleet manager and get time to move and all of that and just change my address and keep right on trucking... do you think that is honest or was he feeding me a line of bull? If he was... who can I drive for that would allow me to do that? Or should I just plan on quitting my job here and having to look for another one once I move?

    Three: Living in your truck. Is it possible to 100% live in your truck? I.e. not have a residence to have to go back to? It seems kind of silly to me to pay 5-600$ for a place I might be at 2-3 days a month. I would much rather live in the truck. Laundromats are relatively cheap, and heck, I can pay all of my non house related bills online. Is there any way to do that, or do I "need" a residence?

    Four: Miles. How willing are carriers to keep you on the road as much as possible? I mean, I have no one to go back to, so it would be nice to be able to log 3-3500 miles a week. But is that even plausible? Gordon said 2500-3000 miles for the average driver, and one flatbed company I was looking at, LoneStar-LLC (I dont have the experience for them, though) said 2-2500 miles. What can I realistically expect to be able to put down weekly?



    hopefully I wasn't too long-winded, and I hope some of the more experience drivers can help me out here.

    Thanks :biggrin_255:
     
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  3. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Who you drive for is going to be based upon what you are looking for vs. what various companies are willing to offer. You could ask 100 different drivers that same question, and get 100 different responses. One person's "top choice" is another person's "avoid at all costs".

    As long as you are currently living within the operating area of a carrier, and are moving to another location within the operating area of that carrier, you will usually not have any problems moving. However, if you choose to move outside of the normal operating area of the carrier, you may have issues getting home IF they allow you to stay on with them. In other words, any carrier who runs lanes where you are at now, and also runs lanes where you intend to move, should be able to accommodate you when you move.

    You really need a "tax home". If you live in the truck, you cannot take advantage of the per diem deduction on your income taxes. That "tax home" could even be your parent's address or that of a friend or other relative....just SOMEPLACE to lay your head a few nights each year and receive your mail. You also need some sort of mailing address for your license...so you may as well claim residence there too.

    In a down economy, 2000-2500 might be all some carriers can move you. Others might be able to run you 3500 or so. It all depends upon what freight they have available to move, and how many trucks they need to spread that freight out amongst. If you make a reputation for yourself as a dependable & safe driver who always picks up & delivers on time, is courteous at the shippers & receivers, acts professionally, and generally represents the company well, then you'll be more likely to given more loads than you would if you were constantly late and generally caused trouble wherever you went.

    Nah...typical questions, though...even though there is no real answer to most of them they still get asked pretty regularly.
     
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  4. Buffalo444

    Buffalo444 Light Load Member

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    What is the "per diem" deduction?
     
  5. FatDaddy

    FatDaddy Road Train Member

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    Good answers in above post. The only thing I have to add is your question about living in the truck. At one point last year while going through a divorce I decided that having a residence and paying 600/mth was silly as well. So what I did was use the parents address as a mailing address and switched my license. When I wanted to go "home"...wherever that happened to be at the time...I would find a an Extended Stay America chain, rent a car to get around and take a few days off. Still cheaper than paying rent and maintaining a vehicle
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Each night you spend away from your "tax home" you get to claim a meal & incidental expense (M&IE) on line 5 of form 2106. As a driver subject to the HOS, you get to deduct 80% of that amount.

    If you have no tax home, you do not get this deduction.
     
  7. Buffalo444

    Buffalo444 Light Load Member

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    Ah I see. Guess I need to get more learned up on that.

    What would you guys suggest for driving? Is it best to flatbed like I am gleaning, or is dry van just as good?
     
  8. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Again, that's going to be a matter of personal preference. Dry van is usually open the doors & bump the dock...but loading & unloading your own freight isn't unheard of. Flatbed is a lot more physical work, and you've got to know what you are doing in regards to load securement...so it will usually pay more per mile. Trying to secure & tarp a load when it is 35 degrees & pouring rain with a 20 mph wind and you'll wish all you had to do was close the doors.

    Either way, you're still driving & gaining experience....so which do YOU want to do?
     
  9. Buffalo444

    Buffalo444 Light Load Member

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    Basically, make the most I can. I don't care what I have to do. I'm not shy from physical work (bailing hay for 14 hours makes loading a trailer look like a vacation). I want to go where I can get the most miles and best pay, or something less than conventional (like oil field work).

    Can you get into oil/gas field driving fresh out of driving school?
     
  10. CondoCruiser

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    He's gonna have an address on his CDL. His employer is going to consider that his tax home and hold out state taxes if appropriate. The IRS isn't gonna dig that deep.

    You can live in your truck if you want to. I've done it for two years once. I picked a company where I could move back to TN from IL too. I stayed with family or got a motel on my off time. It's a good way to save money. But do it for a reason like saving money quick. Get you a PO Box for your mail. Medium size if you stay out a month or more. Pay everything online.

    You work to have a life and a future. Home ownership is something you should focus on when you are young. The sooner you pay it off the better off you are. You'll never beat the interest rates right now. Even if you don't live in it, you are not throwing money away. So what if you only stay in it 2 days a month. One day it will be yours or an asset you can sell for a profit.

    Another thing I would do at your age is start up a Roth IRA separate from the company 401K. Put you $100 a month in it and you can retire when you get 55. Prudential is a great company to deal with.
     
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  11. chompi

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    Welcome to the forum man! Crete is an excellent company! Make sure you check with the recruiter first though because they only take students from a select few schools.

    As far as pay scale goes, I would be weary of any company offering a newbie above average mileage pay. Chances are they aren't running any miles if their pay is abnormally high.

    Yes you can live in your truck. Take it one step at a time though. Don't sell your place before you go out over the road. Make sure you like living in a rolling closet before you make any drastic decisions. Like the other poster said though, you can get a motel on the beach or wherever you want when it comes to taking your time off. I love driving but have found after three months or so you need to get out of the truck. You need a little time to reset your own clock and come back fresh. As far as where you live, as an over the road driver it really doesn't matter. Unless you are living in Florida most over the road companies travel all 48. Both Wyoming and Illinois are smack in the middle of the freight lanes. On a side note, both are too friggin cold for me!

    You are in a very good position though to be an over the road driver. Jump in man and enjoy the adventure.
     
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