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I live in the Fort Worth are of tx were large scale fracing and horizontal drilling as we know first exploded. I've worked locally for about five years and have seen no destruction of the environment. There's over ten thousand wells in the barnett and I have yet to see one catostrophic environmental disaster. The worst thing about all of it was the heavy truck traffick and the wells that you see all over the place which aren't that pretty to look at. But the tens of thousands of jobs that the field supported in its prime and the thousands that it still supports as well as the huge tax revenue it created far outweighs the negatives.

 

Well here are some, but since google is a thing, you can find more if you look for them

http://www.tceq.texas.gov/remediation/superfund/sites/byname.html

I never painted the oil companies as a villain, I said that it is dirty and dangerous, but so are lots of things. I work in it because the money is good, and why would I turn that down? Yeah, I'm not doing ND any favors, but it is up to them to decide when enough is enough. Don't be so emotional, it makes you look childish.

 

Yep I guess you're right, OK and TX have been destroyed.

I'm the childish one? You're the one who entered this thread with baseless claims of environmental destruction. I asked for facts, you provided a list of Superfund sites. Most of which have nothing to do with oil and gas. I think I'll resume this tomorrow.

 

Jeez, I was making a joke about how talking about environmental destruction made me "emotional"...if thinking that we shouldn't be spilling massive amounts of chemicals that the MSDS says are hazardous just all over the ground makes me "emotional", then I guess I am highly emotional. The problem with a lot of the damage that happens to the environment is that it isn't seen as a problem until it builds up to a point that we can look at it and see "wow, everyone has cancer, maybe all the arsenic-laden mine tailings shouldn't be dumped right into a major watershed". We don't know how fracking is really going to effect the environment because we haven't been doing it that long. Pollution is all the same, we need to be smart about it just in case it has some problems we haven't seen manifest.

 

I don't know for sure about the long term consequences of fracking (maybe on the 100s of years scale) but every action has consequences. Remember when all the gas had lead in it because it made for better mpg? That had major environmental consequences nobody ever took into consideration for YEARS. The actual fracturing of rock deep underground isn't in itself harmful to the aquifers, but I'm sure that all the spills and the chemical-laden waste water and all that will create problems down the road after we (and all the oil money) are gone. Then who is going to clean it up? If working around the chemicals gets you sick (that is an issue for another thread), then saying that dumping it in a concentrated area like western ND isn't a problem sounds...off.

 

Not a single one of these is related to fracking. Lots of old chemical plants, battery recycling centers, refineries that closed decades ago. And most have long ago been taken care of. Again fact is not ONE SINGLE INCIDENT OF FRACING PROCESS CAUSING GROUNDWATER DAMAGE IN 40+ YRS OF IT"S USE. Hope you don't freak so bad at all scary movies. LOL