Silage work

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  1. Isai

    Isai Bobtail Member

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    Hopefully I’m in the right place. Everyone knows how the oilfield is being hit so I started searching for my next slice of bread. There is an opportunity to get into hauling silage. My question as an owner operator is how are the prices currently with the ton/mile? I’m getting offered 3.25 the ton plus 0.25 the mile. The load will be from 25-30 tons according to them. If there is guys here working silage does that sounds correct? Also I heard corn season only lasts for around 2 months but is straight work. Thanks in advance!
     
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  3. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

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    $3.25x30T=$97.5

    200mi x 0.25=$50

    So a 200 mile run pays $147.5

    what’s your average length of haul?

    200mi is an easy 3hrs drive time plus load & unload time. Sounds like your working for peanuts to me.

    would that even cover your expenses??
     
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    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Any forage, hay and small grain silage, too.

    Usually a short haul with multiple loads per session(day).
     
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    Capacity Road Train Member

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    I haul ag products a lot , lots of miles on dirt roads beats the crap out of your truck and trailer.
    It will eat air bags like a XXXL driver at the Petro Buffet.
     
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  6. Isai

    Isai Bobtail Member

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    The way they described it to me was like this:
    The route is approximately 100 miles.
    100 x .25 = $25 + $3.25 = $28.25 per ton
    28.25 x 25 tons = $706.25 per load. They told me they average 3 loads a day working paper logs. That’s $2,118.75 a day. To me it sound way too good. That’s why I was concerned. Just wanted to know if someone that knew the field could tell me if those numbers were about right or bs.
     
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  7. Ol'Shusquatch

    Ol'Shusquatch Light Load Member

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    Do you mean .25 per ton mile or in other words 30 ton,
    pays 7.50 a mile.
    So a ten mile run, cutter to pit pays 75.00 mileage, plus the 3.25 times 30 ton or 97.50 as mentioned.
    That brings a load or full round paying 172.50. So if you make a round every 90 minutes, there is a buck at it maybe.
    Sileage takes time to load and getting on and off the field. Then there is the unload time at the pit. Haul should be fairly short as 2x2 said. .25 a mile sounds like that is a ton mile rate, such as used in the gravel world. Be sure before rigging up for it, IMHO.
    Good luck
     
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  8. Isai

    Isai Bobtail Member

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    The ag fields I had seen over here are decent. Or probably they just seem to me since oilfield roads are 95% of the time complete #### holes.
     
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  9. Ol'Shusquatch

    Ol'Shusquatch Light Load Member

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    Funny, just sent my reply at the same second. Think the numbers used will apply to what ever the local market allows. In our market it is short haul and usually by the hour. So a haul like that is a different story. You know your costs and when it's all said and done the big thing is will you get paid and did you cost it out right.
     
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  10. Isai

    Isai Bobtail Member

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    Yeah exactly like that. You just used another way to find the amount. I was confused at first haha. But that’s the way they told me. And the rounds are 100 miles long. So average 3 loads if everything goes good. To me it sounds great. But I’m new to that and want to hear it from other guys that are in the field. The oilfield left me with a bad experience. A lot of lies can be said just to get you aboard then when the checks arrive its a whole different story.
     
  11. Ol'Shusquatch

    Ol'Shusquatch Light Load Member

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    Yes the patch is in a class of it's own. Know about the 90 day payment terms they like. Always liked the ag business in general. Get clear on the payment terms. If you invoice for the weeks hauling on Friday, when is the check being handed over? Like the smell of that fresh cut silage, but pretty dusty conditions for the truck.
     
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