Alignment ordeal

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Dino soar, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Its hard to want to come here and help others out when we just get smack talked all the time.
     
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  3. x1Heavy

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    I think I am covered in knots and black and blue after what some of the people get through with me on the net sometimes. But I usually stick to my guns and go down buried in spent ammunition =) But not always.

    Mechanics are ok for the most part. I just keep a eye on them generally. There is one I would not mind picking on for being so lazy. I guess he cannot help it Its almost as if I have to pickup all his stuff and do it myself or find another shop. (Which is what we did...) I don't know how they can employ him with such ... lackluster motivation to help fix people's sick vehicles. Why does he even bother?

    Thats as far as I would go with that particular one. hes literally history. His name however is been made into a verb, we don't want any more so and so in our future shop work. One of our dealers in searcy has been stopped from doing just any work that the other shops can do. We had a famous cigerette lighter incident last year where the cell phone charger got stuck in it. Rather than me destroying the whole works ripping it out we asked the dealer to get it right quick.

    Sure, you bet. That'll be 110.00 plus labor. A new lighter will be much extry.

    WTF? Welp, thats the end of that episode. The other shop got it out for 5.00 and was able to save the lighter itself.
     
  4. Hulld

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    Yes
    That is understood.
    I just wouldn’t take it to personal unless it was directed directly about you.
    If one thing I have learned on the mechanics side is you need to develop some what of a thick skin.
    Mechanics is a profession where you could do everything right but your still the bad guy in the end.
    A lot of times the scenario is by the time the customer gets to your shop they have had to pay for an expensive tow and are looking at a very expensive repair.
    This unfortunately cause them to want you in a pine box before you ever open your mouth lol.
    Emotions can certainly cloud reasonable thinking sometimes.
    With that being said this is why I enjoy the trucking side so much.
    My customers (snowbirds) are always smiling and happy to see me and there is never angry emotion in the mix when I arrive.
     
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  5. clausland

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    I'm willing to bet that the snowbird gig is very lucrative, at least during the Spring & Fall anyway, definitely a viable niche...
     
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  6. clausland

    clausland Road Train Member

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    Don't take it personal like. You've been a big help to others on here, and I hope you continue to be.

    The point is, good mechanic's, like good drivers, seem to be getting harder & harder to find. Couple that with repair shops that actively seek to rip you off, while producing inferior work and then try to blow smoke up your ###.
     
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  7. AModelCat

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    Different when you get paid to deal with it vs volunteering your time.
     
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  8. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    @AModelCat

    Please don't take anything that I say personally. It is not directed toward you or anyone else on this site. Even if you guys were not personally helping me I've learned an incredible amount from you helping others with your experience and knowledge.

    I do read threads on here where they stated they took the truck to such-and-such place and the mechanics knew what they were doing and got right to the heart of the problem at a reasonable price.

    My problem is that a lot of places just want the profit every day without necessarily solving the problem or doing the right thing, and often they make up repairs that aren't there.

    Years ago I knew a guy that work for Midas and he told me they would give them classes on what to do to people's cars when they come in to Jack the price up.

    Years ago I bought a pickup truck it was almost new. The dealer said bring it in for inspection will give you free inspections.

    So the truck had maybe twenty something thousand miles on it and we always service the truck and took care of it, and next thing I know I go in for a
    "free" inspection and they hand me a bill for $675. They said well if you want a sticker that work has to be done.

    Well I took the truck home and me and my dad pulled the wheels off and took a look at it and there was absolutely nothing wrong with that truck. I called them up and threatened to go to the Pennsylvania State Police because they are pulling Shenanigans for state inspection.

    Another time when I was a kid I took a car into the garage near where I worked. Big mistake. They charged me an outrageous amount of money for that repair.

    The car still didn't run right so I did what anyone would do and I took it back to them. I will never forget it. The guy opened up the hood he unscrewed the top for the air cleaner, put a new air cleaner in, put the top back on for a total of literally 3 minutes, and proceeded to give me a bill in 1990 for $109. What is that today like $350?

    I think that the problem is there are so many places out there that just rip people off and get away with it that it's like they have a license to rob you. And there is a lot of that that goesaround.a

    Myself I think that on this site if anyone has a good experience with a garage they should definitely shout it from the four corners of the Earth it's really difficult to find a good honest reputable shop. But they are out there.

    And like I said please don't take any of this personally.

    I have no problem with a shop turning a profit if they give you a good service.

    But I have to badmouth a place that tried to charge me almost $200 for a $5 air fitting after making me wait all day for a 2-hour job... which I had a 7:30 a.m. appointment for and they didn't even take the truck in until 8:30....
     
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  9. Hulld

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    It works for my business model because I have the repair shop and dealership as well as other irons in the fire along with the trucking business.
    If I had to depend solely on the trucking for income I don’t think it would work well.
    My truck literally sits for six months a year yet the trucking expenses such as insurance and other expenses roll on year around.
     
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  10. SteveScott

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    Alignments are a crap shoot if you don't know and respect the mechanic doing the work. I once took a tractor into a T/A for an alignment because it was slightly pulling to the right as I drove. They did their alignment and it still pulled, and over the next couple weeks I noticed a drive tire wearing badly. Went to another T/A within the 30 day warranty period T/A offers, and the drive tire was now worn down to the sub-layer and illegal. Showed them my receipt, and they replaced the tire and fixed the alignment for free. They said that the toe was off by 2 inches, and the previous guy was an idiot.

    Need to get my Utility reefer tandems aligned currently, but have to go to a dealer for that. Can't wait to see how much they want for the job.
     
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  11. Studebaker Hawk

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    If the bolts are rusted solid and the tie rod ends are rusted to the cross rod, it will have to be replaced. Can tell that until you start the job.
    Here is what The Maintenance Council of the American Trucking Association says about bending axles:
    “TMC’s target value is less than ¼ degree either side. You want to shoot for that. The camber angle is not adjustable. It is machined into both the axle beam and the knuckle. If you find that an axle beam is out of camber specs, you need to get us involved. In my 20 years with this company I’ve replaced three axle beams. Bending of axle beams is not recommended by axle manufacturers and will void the axle warranty.”
    The front axle is only part of the equation. Adjusting the torque rods on the drive axles at 6 places, or more depending on the truck can be a very time consuming business on an older tractor that hasn't been touched in a long time. Parts will have to be torched off, and replaced, non of which can be predicted.

    We will have to just agree to disagree on what constitutes a proper 3 axle alignment on a class 8 truck.
     
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