No need to notify the DOT when you go over hours. Just like the red light and speeding cameras, no officer needed. you go over hours, DING! instant ticket and payroll deduction! You say "No way"?, seatbelt tickets were never meant to be a primary reason to stop anyone either.
Am I the only 1 to think that EOBRs are going to keep me from making $???
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by truckerdave1970, Aug 27, 2009.
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This is getting ridiculous. If AMERICANS don't start putting there foot down the government and big business is going to run right over the top of us. Some serious H E L L needs to get raised over this NONSENSE. We are headed down a slippery slope people. Where does it end??? -
No I'm not a mindless drone. The Qualcomm quite literally save my butt when I have broke down at night where there wasn't any cell phone coverage and the nearest pay phone was 10 miles away. I'm willing to bet for every story of a driver getting into trouble (which usually means he/she is doing something they aren't suppose to be doing), it wouldn't surprise me there is at least 3 or 4 stories where its saved the driver's butt. Electronic equipment in itself is not bad,its how its used. BTW if you are working for someone they are paying you to do what they want and no one is forcing you to work for them or do anything illegal. Granted the industry has problems and needs changes, but complaining about it on a website and insulting people who are giving an honest opinon isn't going to fix the industry. The only way you can change the government is to get a large enough group together and vote out your local,State,and Federal govrenment representives out of office and boycott the businesses whose business practices the group does not agree with.
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That is what prompted my posting of the question. My company has started a new policy of log audits where in addition to using the standard supporting documents (i.e. tolls, fuel tickets etc), they will be taking the GPS data from the qualcomm 3 times a day, 0300, 1100, 1900 and matching that info against our paper logs! Each violation costs 30 points. you start with 1000 each month. If you lose 200 points, you are subject to disipline, probation, suspention, and termination.
Do the math, 7 violations in a month and you could lose your job! There goes any flexibility I had when trip planning or maybe trying to squeeze in an extra day home or get a load delivered in 1 day instead of waiting till the next am.
Whatever happened to "go to bed when you are tired, get the #### load delivered and turn in a legal-looking log"? well I might go bankrupt running legal, but I'll be getting plenty of sleep! -
I had occasion to recently work with a bunch of people that were insistent on drivers following hours of service rules, they were worried about being sued; it was interesting to see dispatchers actually working out if a driver could do something legally. Lawyers tend to get paranoid when they are running a business.
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mandatory recorders will cripple the capacity of the industry, and at least at first murder drivers who are paid by the mile. My personal worst traffic record is 6 hours from Russell Rd to Gary Indiana, on a Friday evening at Christmas shopping season. 75 miles average speed 12.5 miles per hour, and 2/3 of a legal day. Tell us what the result of this would be with a recorder?
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recently i had my logs compared against GPS, got a good verbal spanking. so i have been having to log legit.
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For years I have been telling people that there would be a system put in trucks that would force you to run legal. I have always said that when this comes to be there will be a mass exodus of drivers. Some because they can't make money and run legal. Others because if they can't run around like a bunch of cowboys they don't want to do it. All of which is fine with me. Less drivers mean more freight for me. As a Marine I was taught how to get the job done within the rules. Same thing as a cop. So when I first started driving I decided I would run legal. I have been doing that for 18 yrs now. I can run 500 miles a day in a 65mph truck with rare exception. If you average 60mph for 8.5 hour you will get your 500. Of cource this means gettin in, leaving that left door shut, And driving. Once I start driving I only stop twice for 10 min. each. 500x7=3500 a week. 3500x.34= $1190. So I fall to see where the problem is. EOBR will just be another tool to use. Like the QuallComm, If used correctly it is of great use to the drive.
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Kabar, the mass exodus will be drivers and dispatchers and/or load planners. From the start of the industry, very few OTR companies have followed the rules. Most dispatchers are now under trained and overloaded with drivers, wait till they have to use the HOS to move freight. Moving freight will now involve constant information flow, being delayed will have real world consequences. I'm betting you will see most freight being moved at night, no more driving through major cities during rush hour. We all know and understand the delays we face, now the companies are going to understand and have to work around them legal.
Mark
This will be about a change to more than the driver, the companies are going to have to rethink everything. It could also lead the way to more south border trucks running in US.
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