Am I the only 1 to think that EOBRs are going to keep me from making $???

Don't know, but it will cause the industry to change....................If the driver is required to pay for the dead cattle, you sue the shipper and receiver. As long as you didn't kill them by negligence, you shouldn't be charged. As long as everything is done withing HOS.

Will the changes happen overnight, no. It will take time see what is really affected. The people writing the laws have no clue of the long term effects.

Mark

 

This will part of that "we didn't consider that" when we changed the rules. What ever we has drivers think, the changes are coming.

I'm not trying to be a smart ### to the industry, I drove OTR for 3 years. I did adjust me books to fit my driving style, but that style of driving is on it's death bed. I drive for a company that pays by the hours and wants us to log it 100% legal. After driving this way I will never go back to OTR, until there is major overhaul of the industry. How I'm treated now is night and day compared to how I was treated OTR.

Mark

 

"A Change" ??? A change that will make things worse, harder, more impossible, more ridiculous. This is NOT the kind of change we need!

The hours of service rules already make NO sense and need to be fixed. Change the hours of service rules if you want to CHANGE something. DON"T enforce them to a higher degree.

Also as far as hauling livestock. If you don't know anything about it, please do not speculate on what livestock haulers should do to overcome this situation. Obviously you have NO idea how the livestock industry works, with your idea of suing the shipper and receiver. Ridiculous! That sounds like something a politician would come up with.

We need to put a stop to this nonsense immediately!!

 

pay and travel times will not improve.

1. Cheating allows smaller companies to run harder when they get busy for short peroids of time. My job in particular we get real busy periodically, cheating allows us to handle the extra work and keep our customers happy. If we were not able to cheat we would either need another driver, give away the work, or just provide bad service to the customer through longer wait times for his deliveries.

2. I work semi local, we travel no farther than 330 miles from home. With electronic logs, I may have to stop my truck 30 miles from home, instead of getting home, sleeping well and getting to see my family.

3. It will give you less miles per week in an otr enviornment as they will now make sure they schedule EXTRA time into the load, making you sit more. It will also increase the need for drivers and equipment or make more companies force teams.

4. The companies will always ignore dock times, they are not willing to force load times, and if they do the shipper may just use another carrier who is willing to let the drivers sit.

5. Small companies will need to hire more drivers or give up work in busy times to compensate for the lack of ability to get creative, the individual driver will suffer, I would lose 500-1000 a week in busy periods, if my boss hired another driver we would all lose in slow times as the work would be split more ways.

K

 

EOBR's are going to cause a major headache in trucking period. These companies are so afraid to lose a customer they will do everything possible to keep them. Here's the problem. Customer's are spoiled. For years they can call the trucking co, request a truck to pick up a load, and deliver it JIT. They expect the driver to have the hours available to deliver that load. No ifs,ands or buts. Every driver has run into that situation at one time or the other. EOBR's are going to require, no not require, MANDATE that you run in the HOS requlations. They may not be that big a deal really for the driver,BUT they are going to cause major logistic problems with the company and therein lies the nightmare. Do you tell the driver to deliver the load regardless, tell the shipper you can't deliver the load at the requested time, ignore the request. I think anyone gets the point here. Try telling your customer you can't do as they request and see what happens. The shipper will find someone to deliver that load period. I know there is what I consider reasonable facts for the use of EOBR's BUT I believe the consequences for the industry as a whole will be a catasrophe. Trucking companies have so spoiled shippers that the consequences are now going to catch up with them They have been warned about this situation for years but have chosen to ignore that for the most part. Soon it will be too late to ignore these situations and the results are not going to be pretty.JMHO.

 

I agree Scuby, and I'm an old fart that remembers the world of pay phones(when you could find one) and CB radios(when you could find help on it).
The Qualcomm can be a lifesaver when it comes to being able to communicate.
Just like this laptop I am sending this message to you on while I'm getting loaded in Perry GA and you are Lord knows where.
Not that many years ago this debate would be taking place in Truckers News magazine and we would be waiting a month between issues to see who said what.