All the wrong reasons

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by GasHauler, Aug 31, 2009.

  1. Pete_379X

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    Thats a tall order these days, no matter where you are looking. Trucking or not.
     
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  3. SilverDragon

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    LOL guys this post is so not fair FUNNY VERY VERY FUNNY lol since ive read the ones you mentioned and to be honest they have made me laugh so much quickly followed by wtf is wrong with them lol (no offence lol) but they have... geez hopefully the questions ive made havent been this bad lol :p
    but do keep in mind this... ignorance... yes.. but WHO BETTER to correct that than someone (or a lot of) people that HAVE the experience, have the knowlegde and are able to go into these post and literally say... umm get things right you *** and ____ correct people... ignorance sometimes is not a choice... so why not use your knowlegde and correct us N00bs and wanna be's (including me please! lol)
    I for one joined this site to learn as much as possible and to get as many pointers as i'm able to ^.^
    although i realize that this is what this post is kinda about... which... ALSO made me laugh lol i was wondering if i was one of the few looking at those and just laughing ... a LOT lol ^.^
    *smile*
     
  4. Pete_379X

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    You see. Every once in awhile you'll get a bone headed question from someone that just doesn't know what to ask. But they want to learn. So its easier to get them on the right path. Don't get me wrong.. I guess there is no bad question... just makes you wonder what people coming into this are expecting. I mean, yeah it can be good times. But every night isn't going to be a party on the back row. I never thought to ask anything like what I'm seeing these days on here. I was more worried about how not to run someone over, who to call if there were trouble on the trip or if I was going to be late. How do I run a log.. what the he77 is a log... things like that. But we're all different I guess.

    The problem is, when you get some questions from people that don't want to be told the answer they don't want to hear. Like about getting a big hood on their first truck, will I have cable TV and a full kitchen? Will there be hot girls everywhere etc etc. Try and steer them straight and you're "harassing" them or it turns into a internet pissin' match. Which really gets no one anywhere at all. All in all.. any question is ok to me. Just be prepared to hear something you possibly may not like.

    But I'm just a one time company driver that turned into a O/O twice over, that sold out and went to the railroad. So I don't know what I'm talkin about anyway. :biggrin_25525:
     
  5. ACBass

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    Crash, that was great reading and oh so funny!! I just finished my 1st 4 weeks of training with Werner and my dad drove for 48 years, and both of mmy brothers drive, so I know what the lifestyle is. But, you are correct, these questions are way out of left field. As a new driver, I don't even know where those questions come from. But, alas, I also understand the changing of society as a whole with all of the "gimme gimme gimme" crowd. I've been training in a Cascadia, although nice and roomy, but I still know I prolly won't get one upon my training completion, so my hopes are not that high, I will take what they have or offer me. And do the job they want me to do, because thats how I was raised. I will take my trucking career where I want it to go, far a profitable for me and Werner or whoever I drive for. I will just make the best decisions I can and the my best to do the job at hand.

    I'm thinking some Newbs may think this is old school or old fashioned, but, its worked before and will work again. :biggrin_25519:
     
  6. Vitointn

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    Any day that ANY human being thinks that there is nothing that they can be taught, or learned, or experience is the day they should walk out into their backyard with shovel in hand - to dig their own hole.

    Most of us are given long life so that we may learn - and pass it along.

    Even Einstein couldn't install a ceiling fan - but someone coulda took the time to teach him.:biggrin_255:
     
  7. Biscuit75

    Biscuit75 Road Train Member

    Just remember :There are no stupid questions... just stupid people!:biggrin_25521:
     
  8. Crash935

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    And we all know that you cant fix stupid!!!


    Bass, Im the same as you, dad has been driving my whole life and I spent many summers running around the country with dad in a cabover freightliner, no air ride passengers seat, sleeping across the doghouse with a hardside suitcase on the passengers seat. The only thing you had for entertainment was the windshield, the radio and a book. You had no TV, no fridge, no micro wave, no satelite radio or tv and no GPS. Your load didnt come over some talking keyboard in the truck, you had to stop and put $$$ in a phone and call the shipper or broker yourself to find a load. You made collect calls to your broker and talked in code when the operator asked who was calling so your broker would know where you were and wether or not you were loaded. I remember stopping at diner/fuel stops and when you walked in every driver said hi and you had an actual conversation and usually stayed longer than you should have, now its hide in the back corner with your laptop and your cell phone (and talk really loud on it). Drivers would find out they are going the same direction and run together, now its get out of my way im the most important one out here. But none of these newbies just coming in wouldnt appreciate any of that.

    Even though i took some time and did other things for a job before i got into trucking i think im lucky to have been able to experience the old days. I was also lucky that i didnt have to do the school thing, i had someone who i think is one of the best teach me (Thanks Dad). I was able to team with both my dad and brother several times (were lucky we didnt kill each other) and then run with them in my own truck. Nothing like having your kid in the truck and pulling into a truck stop behind your dad half way across the country and and he doesnt know your there and having you kid walk up and surprise him.

    So to the newbies who think they deserve something, look into the past and see who really paid their dues to this industry and deserve something!
     
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  9. GasHauler

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    I'm sorry but after 20 years driving I do not work for a training company. I don't care if you've got 30 years experience if you ask where's the good looking female truck drivers you're not going to haul gasoline for us. We pay the better money to drivers so it's expected that they have a good solid base of knowledge before they even get into the truck. If I see something that I know that will help then sure I will suggest my opinion. But I expect the basic knowledge to be taught at the school and that's where one of the problems lack. I'm talking about driving professionally and being denfensive so you can operate safely.

    I agree I do think it's our responsibility to teach what we know. But it's gotten to the point where companies use drivers with 6 months experience to taech what they think they know. It's so bad now that I'd much rather have a person that has never been around a truck and teach them how to get to point B the safest way. I expect you to know the truck inside and out and I expect you to know how to drive defensively. I expect you to know all the laws and requirements AND if you don't I expect you to ask questions and know where to look for the right answers. I don't care if you can't hit every gear perfect.

    Let's face it. There's more new drivers coming out into the business that do not know the first thing about the truck. All they know is what is written in the books for a CDL. That's all the schools teach. So you can't be too surprised when I make a posting like this and if you really look the only people that oppose what I'm saying are wannabes. Now I'm sorry if your feelings got hurt and I really do hope that you do come out with a good attitude and learn all you can. So lets put you in the top 5%. In that top 5%, 4.99% have a father or someone they've know for along time that has driven a truck. They bring that knowledge with them.

    I've posted my opinion about what I believe could help the problem. I think there should be another endorsement as driver trainer and there should be requirements that the driver must have. I would say at least 5 years experience but 10 would be better and a clean spotless record. I think that a driver trainer should be paid extra all the time so it doesn't matter if he's driving or not. It doesn't stop there. The companies should be inspected once in awhile for safety and checked to make sure their new driver program is working. I do not think it's the drivers fault that he or she comes out of school and grabs the job that lies the best. Then that company throws you in a truck with another new driver but he or she has been there 6 months. By the time you get to my area I do not have the time to break bad habits nor will the company take a risk.

    I'm not one to sat there's no stupid questions. There are. If a driver came to me and asked where's the steer axle you'd have to restart my heart.
     
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  10. DiGangi

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    You laugh...I was driving next to a Walmart driver yesterday and he was texting...
     
  11. Dreaman

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    You need to know who to listen to as well. For example if there is someone who is rather loud and had done and seen it all, more than likely one not to listen to. I could give you hundreds of stories in this regard. :biggrin_25513: Yes you might need to use a little common sense as well.:biggrin_25524: My point is mouth shut, ears and eyes open!
     
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