Trucking in North America vs around the world

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  1. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

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    Yes .....

    18 speed Eaton engine coolant goes back to transmission (I believe)


    Also no side skirts.......:)
     
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  3. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    I have an older engine and a big grill. My fan is off almost all the time. With the new trucks, you hear the fan coming on and going off all the time. Yes, they do get significantly hotter.
     
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  4. bavarian

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    I try to get there. But up north here, road salt is the biggest killer, I would say.

    At this point, I'd like to reveal a bit more info about the truck itself.
    The truck is a 2006 Pete 387. Yest, I know, an ugly aerodynamic ...... for some of you with the most unwanted engine, a CAT C 13 Acert.
    I got the truck as a 5 year old lease return with about 970000 km on the clock. As far as the dealer was willing to reveal, one injector, the oil cooler and a turbo was done by the previous owner.
    Half a year after I got her, oil started to build up in the coolant, cooland hoses started to look greasy, later they started to swell.
    I got in touch with the local CAT dealer to hear about the bad news. They recommended a platinum rebuild and offered a fix price of over $18000 including a three year warranty on the whole engine. I was basically broke at that point and again CAT helped me out. They offered a two year financing for 0% interest. I got approved and went for the repair. During the rebuild they discovered the precooler to be leaking and I ordered the front structure to get done as well, this wasn't included in the platinum kit.
    The cylinder liners had some cavitation on the outside but were almost new on the inside. At this point the truck had about 1.2 mi km and about 27000 hours, about 13000 bours of idling.
    After a good week, only one mechanic was working on the truck, I got her back. $22000 net later, I was rolling again. After my first trip, the waterpump started to leak. Since it was a Friday morning when I found it, they couldn't get it entirely done before 3pm, which shut me down for the weekend. It was covered under warranty.
    After that initial hickup, she ran flawless up till today.
    I had two more jobs done during the warranty time. The front structure had to be sealed again and the thermostat failed in the open position.
    But ever since, the engine's internals stayed untouched.
    About a half year later, the transmission went. The transmission oil cooler started leaking and filled up the tranny with coolant. I've been on the road and the dealership put a rebuilt unit in. The second day at noontime I was back rolling again.
    From that point on, the truck held up unexpectedly well.
    There are a few things that weren't touched by me and I think the previous owner didn't touch them before. A mechanic confirmed at one point the attaching bolts for the alternator had the original paint dots on. It's still the original alternator in now. I didn't touch the wheel bearings yet, the diffs or the front driveshaft including the hanger bearing.
    Now some of you might think I'm overly fussy with maintenance or oil changes. Oil gets changed every 40000 kms or 25000 miles. I'm running synthetic all year long. I avoid truckstop shops for that. I come home regularly and booking her into the the shop is just a matter of planning. Building up a good relationship with a shop you can trust is essential.

    I hope she will make it for another three years. Then I couldn't be any happier.
     
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  5. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

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    Now we’re talking.....:)

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  6. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    price of 22000 usd is quite big for rebuild of pre emission engine, here whole engine would cost about that.

    also amount of idling hours is enormous, why so much?
     
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  9. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

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    Goggled that and I still don’t get it ....?
     
  10. spsauerland

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    Most changes on cooling/under hood heat issues go back to 2007 engines/ 2008 model year truck. Freightliner came out with Cascadia and International had just released the Prostar being built with emissions engines in mind.
    My fleet primarily runs Paccar trucks, so I speak more of the changes they made. Cooling modules were switched to Behr higher efficiency aluminum radiators, fans were upgraded to 11 blades, fan shroud was more efficient design and moved mounting to engine vs radiator. Additional heat shields and protective heat barrier wraps were used around exhaust and under cab. Belt tensioner, belt, and fan clutch life become shorter than what we were used to in the past. 2010 emissions required more components needed added to cooling circuit, but with less EGR flow and regens was actually less load on cooling system.
    International seemed to have most issue with cooling system and heat related issues when they tried to go massive EGR vs SCR. We all know how that worked out.
    On trans coolers, Paccar uses more of the coolant heat exchangers. I don't care for them because cross contamination issues, but guys in Canada and cold climates like them for cold weather operation. Our Allison automatics have a rather large tube style coolant to oil heat exchanger mounted under the radiator. Our new dump trucks also have coolant heat exchanger for fuel and power steering. You have many options when specing as far as coolers go.
     
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