Mass graves being dug for COVID-19 deaths on Hart Island in the Bronx.

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  1. buzzarddriver

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    I think i read somewhere that they had been burying the poor there since the late 1800's. This is a potter's field graveyard.
    They are probably burying more people now, because the relative's don't want to pay for funerals so they don't claim the bodies.
     
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    I haven't heard the obits lately, but no services are being held locally.

    The cop in Chicagoland was given a funeral but family only, private.
     
  4. x1Heavy

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    NYC has about a million souls buried there. The Term Potters Field or Blood Island is for those too poor to afford a funeral or burial. The State is pleased to scatter your ashes or bury your remains in a designated field for a region, city or state. Even National.

    If there was a nuclear war of the old fashioned exchange between USA and USSR, DC's Burial plans include the reflecting pool which would have lost it's water and you can put 2 million souls into it a little deep. And cover it over.

    The problem with death is the bodies rot and unleash various diseases and sicknesses capable of extinguishing all life in say NYC within a month. Thats why they need to be buried or cremated. That is a sideeffect of running out of Freezer space to store all of them. NYC is losing about 800 souls every 24 hours. One reefer trailer can store about 70 by volume stacked 4 deep and 3 across more or less. NYC possess 45 rented Reefer trailers outside of their Facilities for handling the dead.

    Those 45 trailers will be full of approximately 3100 dead in about the 4th day.

    NYC has also had to shorten the time to claim the dead to 14 days. All you have to do is say you claim so and so's body by name and they will hold so and so for you. Verbally is enough.

    There is also a huge paperwork problem with the bodies. Death certificates must be sent out. Usually in packs of 50 after you find someone willing to sign on it. Otherwise nothing moves forward for courts probate and estates until that is in hand.

    I find it difficult to write about mass death and it's unfortunate. It is good that NYC is doing what they need to do with the bodies and they are being buried or cremated properly without abuse or neglect. Even if it is a minimum of ... attention. IF there is somewhere in that pile a buried person who has loved ones left behind in life, Im pretty sure sooner or later at some point in a brighter future the loved ones will reclaim that body. The rest will just have to be known only to God.

    In Mt Olivet Cemetary at Frederick Maryland about a 3 by 5 mile complex of graves across from the old 76 truckstop on the hill south of the city, there is a row in the far rear or back of the entire place. In that row contains certain buried persons who are deliberately struck off as "Unknown" essentially by way of Treason against he United States. And struck from all living memory.

    A potters field burial is not so bad. Dust you are and dust you shall return to. However there is the hope of a eternal morning for you and yours to see them again with new bodies never again to be in pain or tears from this life passed over. We all have a beginning and a end. What we do with that time in between does matter.
     
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    Thanks for your comments! My body will be donated to science, if they want it. I am also an organ donor. If I die outside the state of PA, I will be cremated....cheaper to transport me that way!
     
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    Its the crematorium that way. The process of organ donation does not appeal to me. (You are kept warm at body temperature after death with heating of blood and oxygenating bypass machine for a short time until the harvesting surgeon is ready for you.

    Your remains are taken there, tied to the table securely and they begin to chop and remove the necessary organs. The body dies on the table there. The problem is not us, we are already dead and gone from that body. The body however fights like a machine against the surgeon until the heart is removed or the bypass is turned off. You can save many lives with the organs if they are in good condition and thats a gift as far as I am concerned. A beautiful gift. But the way of getting is not.

    We are cancer survivors going on 15th year June. If it returned, thats that when the time comes. The chemo process is pure poison. and was not very good for either one of us. I think the third treatment I had to transport wife to get her Chemo in our car and she was not a willing participant in that situation stressing me out. It would be one of the only times I have ever abused her to shut up verbally. Or lose the entire vehicle. It was that bad. When they got through with the chemo she was a living dead with no one home mentally for a little over 6 years. My hair went from brown to white in that time. In the 7th year I got her back. Damaged but back. And that I think is wonderful. We don't always get people back.

    I prefer to sing of the sunshine that we have than to ruminate on the losses over the years. And thats one path I don't wish on anyone. Ive already been killed 8 times on the road, but not just yet. I saw the situation developing in time. The 9th time something happens will be what I don't see coming. And that would be that.

    I don;t worry about it. What I really like to think is that every sunrise is a gift of a new day, a chance to fix or make better before end of that day because we dont all have tomorrow. And that would be what we all want, always tomorrow.
     
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