Alternative Perspective

Discussion in 'Swift' started by New_Trucker_2009, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. New_Trucker_2009

    New_Trucker_2009 Bobtail Member

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    I am new to the trucking industry, and after spending several hours reading through the posts on this forum, I've decided to share what I've learned. I found a local truck driving school in my area that charged $1,500 (one not connected with any transportation company by the way), and on August 1st I started the training program. I am glad that I did; by September 1st I had my Class A CDL driver's license with doubles/triples and tankers endorsements (hazard materials endorsement still pending the TSA security check), and am now busy trying to get hired on with any company that is willing to take a newbie. But that seems to be where the confusion starts. You have to understand, if you don't already know somebody who is willing to take you under their wing, then you are left with about two or three options.
    But regarding the general consensus on this forum or the topic at hand, what I'm seeing is some seriously foul attitudes, even if they're masked over with good intentions. It's enough that I'm convinced I'll keep my CB off throughout most of my trucking career and rely solely on my MP3 Player to keep me company instead. I keep reading the same posts ad nauseum: "Whatever you do, make sure to stay away from Swift, C.R. England, and Prime, they treat their drivers like they are numbers and not human beings and will leave you dirt poor and broke. Take a little time to find a local company that will hire newbies, it is well worth it." ..... Personally I think that kind of "advice" isn't even worth two cents. "Find a local company that hires newbies"??? Sounds good, okay so where are they? If I may be so bold, how about letting us in on the actual names of some of these companies? Because I've looked and looked for them, and every single company I've found requires six to thirty-six months experience to even fill out an application. So the "find a local company advice" really seems to amount to "don't you wish you knew someone personally in the trucking industry who could start you out at $50,000/year, like me?" because that's all I have taken away from it.
    I have sent online applications to: Anderson, Challenger, Gordon, GWTrans, May, Melton, Roehl, Schneider, U.S. Xpress, etc. and have either been denied or received no response. That leaves me with three options as far as I can see: C.R. England, Prime, and Swift. And if those are the only options available for new drivers then why are people trying to discourage newbies from entering the industry within the only means available? Perhaps that in and of itself is a topic for another thread of subject matter.
    Based on all of the available data that I'm seeing, if you don't know somebody in the trucking industry, you are not going to start out as a king. We've been in an economic depression (it moved from recession to depression during October of 2008, and has only gotten progressively worse, despite what the bought-and-paid-for news networks are selling to the proles as of late) during the last year, so let's start off at the bottom of the ladder and work our way up a few steps from there, then we'll see where we're at. Compare driving for C.R. England, to earning five cents an hour making license plates in prison, think I'll choose England. Next step, let's compare driving for Swift and living in the sleeper for three months at a stretch, to living in a homeless shelter and making $12/day by digging through trash cans and turning in recyclables.
    To the newbies (like me): Don't be discouraged, you are at least three steps up from the bottom rung already, to be sure. Maybe Swift is not the worst fate that could befall us? So maybe you'll make $10,000 during your first year with C.R. England or Swift, but the real benefit that you'll really be reaping is you'll be slowly but surely chipping away at those "6-36 months experience" that are always the requirements for any decent trucking job, as I trust you too will soon find out. And after that first year, maybe you climb a step higher on the ladder and are able to switch to Crete or Maverick or some other company, and net a $20,000/year pay. And after three years of Over-The-Road Longhaul driving, if you have no accidents and no "incidents" (DUIs, etc.), a clean DMV printout, etc. you might just land yourself one of those dream trucking jobs that pay in between $50,000-$100,000/year (and I do know some truckers who make a six-figure salary). The first three years of trucking are what seperate the wheat from the chaff; if you get in a bunch of accidents you might want to choose a different career. This is why I'm going to put safety first, and if I'm tired I will be taking a nap. Nothing is worth having a bad DOT report in my opinion.
    At this point I still haven't heard anything from any of these other companies so I will likely be going with Prime or Swift. If you do the same, I recommend having realistic expectations and going in with a military mindset, as opposed to some high-maintenance whiner mindset. That's about all the philosophy I have to offer up at this time. Thanks for putting up with my Alternative Perspective Morning Coffee Rant. Be safe out there, Peace. :biggrin_25520:

     
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  3. JasonL

    JasonL Light Load Member

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    I would suggest finding a couple of good websites that disseminate your application to various different companies and see what employment offers you get back...

    A good resume, in addition to your application will increase your chances of success. Even if portions of your resume have nothing to do with truck driving, they can display positive character traits, management experience, transferrable skills, etc. This will help you stand out from a standard application...

    You mentioned military. Is there any way to incorporate 'driving experience' within your time in the military? (assuming that you were in the military...)

    Good luck.

    J.
     
  4. Cheesehead28

    Cheesehead28 Bobtail Member

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    I am a July graduate and I agree it is very touch for us new guys! Swift has a long waiting list in Wisconsin where I am from and a lot of the big boys that hired rookies are going to experienced only now. I can understand that. Although it doesn't help new guy the really want to gain some experience and do a great job. Recently I did find a local company to give me a chance. They run local and regional and are pretty cool guys. It really depends on the area if you want to try to find something more local. Some area's are dry and some have opportunites. If it doesn't work out I am going to have to go to Swift and gain some experience. This sitting around crap is gotten to the point where Taco Bell looks like a good opportunity. Good post New Trucker! You not alone on this.
     
  5. bill122250

    bill122250 Medium Load Member

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    I am going to oreintation starting Tuesday for Swift in Syracuse, NY. It took 3 months from the time my application was approved for me to get a slot. I tried to get a local job but everybody around where I live wanted expierence. Some want 3-4 years. I even tried at waste management. I have driven a straight truck for many years, and was told I didn't have any trash expienence.

    Just hang in there and you will get a slot. I kept in touch with my recruiter on a weekly basis, just so she remembered my name.
     
  6. Tk101

    Tk101 Bobtail Member

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    i went through the same issue of looking for companies to work for. they want experience inwhich i don't have. so i went with swift and and got hired, will be down in Tennesse on the 21...I have heard some terrible things about swift but also I pray its the right decision.

    I hope you do get hired at a decent company.
     
  7. bill122250

    bill122250 Medium Load Member

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    I am going with Swift. Go to report a good trucking company here and look for theard called Swift training academy. It is about washington terminal but it will give you a good idea about what to expect.

    Just have a good attitude and it won't be to bad. There are alot of good and bad things said about Swift on the forum. I have come to the decision that it is all what you maker of it and if it is good or bad it is from what you put into it.

    Good luck. Maybe see you on the road someday.
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2009
  8. misterG

    misterG Road Train Member

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    Ok, so you are from central CA. That means a large population of potential emloyers to choose from.
    By local work the other posters a re refering to beverage haulers, fuel deilvery, construction demolition, concrete delivery, dump truck work.
    This may be a global economy yes, but without the local guy it is meaningless.
    Dont forget about calling the Teamsters local in your area and try to get in there, maybe the county is hiring.
    As for starting out as King, forget it, we all have to work our way to the top, you will not likely make even as much as 40,000 a year most likely far less than that.
    Swift is not a bad choice for a STARTER co, neither is Werner you will not be happy at either place but you will get the experience you are looking for. Remeber, the drivers that do make above 30,000 a year don't stop at truck stops several times a day, they stop once to fuel and shower and then get back on the road to the destination to get empty and get another load to another destination and so on.

    Kenmar, Brickman, Broncrider, Medicine Man, among others are all the guys to talk to for advice, they have the years of experience to back up their opinions.
     
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