Engine swap questions

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by DR1188, Apr 20, 2020.

  1. pushbroom

    pushbroom Road Train Member

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    Oh man.


    I take back my offer to work on it.

    As far as I know 320s never came factory with a 3406. The did come with a 3306 for awhile. Wont be any factory parts available for the conversion. Custom motor mounts, rad hoses, air to air hoses, exhaust and air intake will be required. Air to air is probably not big enough for full power but I'm assuming it wont get worked too hard after this. This would be the one truck where keeping the auto is better then trying to put a manual in.
    Truck has amtek smartgauges as well, always hated working on those. They are a somewhat multiplexed system. 320 wiring is in a family by itself, not very logical or fun to work on.

    Because its a 320 this just went from fairly easy/straightforward to rather complicated.

    If you want to do it and love the truck power to ya! I do think you are at least a bit crazy tho :)
     
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  3. DR1188

    DR1188 Bobtail Member

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    I understand, and value the information. I am weighing my options, to see what’s best for this. The ISM in it is rated for 425 right now, which is more than enough. I don’t need 800hp to the tire. I run a C11 daily as-is (and it’s got its own issues), but it outpulls all my friends trucks (mostly ISX KWs) while being rated under 400hp. Maybe I should stick with the Cummins, I just like CAT motors better.

    Oh well, I’m only out the 2k for the girl and 6k for the new frame rails and installation. That’s why I came here, to see and learn. I appreciate all the guidance, and until it looks bleak as heck, I’m still down to give it a shot.
     
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  4. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Well I'm a victim of my own assumptions here, that is not the Peterbilt I thought we were talking about. I now see why the dealer doesn't want to touch it either, no offense but that looks like a headache.
     
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  5. DR1188

    DR1188 Bobtail Member

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    yeah, “Peterbilt” almost always harkens images of 359/379/389 trucks. I’m a bit of a cabover freak. Always liked them back in the day. Had an argosy for a good while but it was retired couple years back. Parts were nonexistent after they became export only, even though theyre made here.....

    This Peterbilt model and the 520, seem to really be hated by dealerships. Which might have been more understandable to me if it were a normal cabover, but they actually laid it out pretty well. My lameduck skills don’t have much trouble messing around with it as-is, and I feel like it’s easier to work on than a true COE style arrangement. Pulling the engine and doing anything like that is easy like a normal 379.

    As for the gauges, I can pull them out and run standalones, I can make custom intake and exhaust plumbing, and the allison should bolt up and function after some Iscaan and cat ET tinkering. I originally thought this had a BCM and a bunch of stuff like the argosy, but I’m thinking it doesn’t based off what I believe to understand from Pushbroom’s posts.

    Which means the only things I need to worry about are the in-cab electronic controls....of which I think only 3 interface with the engine directly. TPS or whatever, the jake controls, and the manual fan switch. The rest should be either simple chassis wiring, air lines, or vacuum operated (wipers, lights, difflock, etc).

    Pushbroom, does any of that sound accurate?
     
  6. Banker

    Banker Road Train Member

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    Look at Piled Up Tv on YouTube. He does rebuilds and seems to do a good job. I think he is in the upper Midwest.
     
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  7. pushbroom

    pushbroom Road Train Member

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    Switches are wired right to the engine. Gauges are either to their own sender or to the interface module. This ametek manual will give you a rundown of how the system operates.
    https://www.ametekvis.com/-/media/ametekvis/download/technical-support/peterbilt_387.pdf?la=en

    I know it says 387 but the 320 has the same style gauges. There is not a body computer on this, no need to worry about that.

    I attached the diagram for engine harness to give you an idea how that all hooks up. Also put on a cab on that shows the junction box.
     

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