“The brokers make too much”

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Long FLD, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    Interesting how some of you are screaming less regulation when it comes to brokers but when it comes to owner operators or drivers you guys ere “its to easy for new entrants” “cdl mill” “they need more requirements before handing out CDLs”.

    all I care about is owner operators and having every protection put in place for the owner operators.

    there will always be company drivers and nothing against them.

    As for the brokers? The honest ones I hope you guys survive because you guys are getting under cut big time and you will lose first before owner operators go out.
     
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  3. Lennythedriver

    Lennythedriver Road Train Member

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    All I wanna know is what percentage of trucking companies honor and pay the last paycheck and all outstanding miles to their drivers when they go belly up. Because the last several trucking companies I’ve read about to go belly up, they do it spontaneously with no warning. And then they don’t pay their drivers their last paycheck or two. I think that’s about as low as it gets. But hey, it happens. I’m surprised we haven’t heard about more companies going Under already, but you can rest assured it’s coming.
     
  4. 6wheeler

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    I know you said before that you have never used a broker before but let me fill you in.

    1. Broker's have allowed this 2 hour free waiting period for driver's not to get paid at both shipper and receivers for a total of 4 hours.

    2. Broker's often dump the load on the carrier that is going to pick it up without paying TONU to find another cheaper carrier.

    3. Broker's use contracts to prevent carriers from any "freemarket" competition for carriers to do business.
     
  5. Ridgeline

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    you know guys, many of you cry about what others make and should be concerned with what you make.

    If the broker doesn't present you with a deceit offer, then move on.

    it is that simple.

    If you can't find work through brokers, then there are other ways, like direct to the customer.


    That said ...


    Double brokering isn't illegal unless it is abused.

    If it is in the contract, then it is a contractional obligation and it is considered a breach of the contract if that it violated.

    Many ... maybe 30% of the loads are double brokered loads.

    Sometimes one broker will call on a carrier to take a load and they put that load on their load board, this happens all the time. the same with distressed loads, one carrier will call on another to rescue a load - driver are so amazed this happens.
     
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  6. LtlAnonymous

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    "Deceit" offer.

    Freud was right.
     
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  7. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    Free market is a cliche. It is has never been free.
    I am going to be frank.
    I hate the fact that brokers are able to keep half or more of what the shippers pay them. I'd love to see their profits capped at 15% max. If so, I should be able to see what a shipper's pay to a broker is.
    They could be regulated as in the real estate, where brokers' commission cut is a state level regulated, another example is the medical malpractice law, where lawyers can only take a certain % off the settlement or court judgment.
     
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    Reason for edit: edited for simplicity purpose
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  8. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    So should you be capped at making 15% as well? I’m sure the shippers would love that.
     
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  9. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    Not at all. How could you possibly think that? I would want only what is good for me. No profit cap for me!
    Well....Maybe...I'd settle for 85% of the shippers pay to be fair.
     
  10. TallJoe

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    Also I propose that:
    Shippers pay is not to be capped but their minimum pay is 2.5 dol per mile. The shippers should not be allowed to build their own fleets (WM or Ashland Furniture fleets should be disallowed) and any increase of transportation costs is their problem....they would pass it onto consumers, I guess.
     
  11. LtlAnonymous

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    I don't understand this tit-for-tat argument. So we cap the middleman, or at least expose what they are making, and so that immediately leads to driver pay getting cut? The driver is the one doing the work. Lol

    The home-selling argument is a perfect example. We didn't cap what a house could be sold for. LOL
     
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