Civil Lawsuit protection / Is there insurance a driver can get while driving as company driver.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by PWAROAD, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    On the other hand, when involved in a catastrophic loss, the insurance provided lawyers try to do what is necessary to avoid the potential 'nuclear' judgments.

    I had an operator involved in a fatality. Now the FMCSA CDL rules state that a CLD holder CONVICTED over a fatality looses his CDL for a year.

    New Jersey decided, without charges, let alone a conviction, that they wanted to suspend his CDL for fourteen months. The lawyers went above and beyond to support the driver at his hearing to determine if the suspension was warranted and proved that he was NOT responsible.

    The LAST thing they wanted was to go to court with the driver's suspension hanging over them.

    They were successful. Some of the evidence they used also convinced the marine terminal AND their security provider to step up and each be responsible for a third of the proposed settlement.

    Our third was $800,000.00 against the insurance reserve of one million which was the maximum of our liability coverage.

    Had the insurance lawyers not been so diligent in defending the driver and looking at the facility and security companies involvement AND proved how the other two parties WERE partially responsible; we would have been on the hook for the 1.4 million that was beyond our coverage limit.

    Settlement was reached ten days before the court date...the closest of ANY lawsuit where I was involved.
     
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  3. PWAROAD

    PWAROAD Bobtail Member

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    Thank you .... This subject was always on my mind since I had that safety meeting many years ago. When I drove as a garbage man for many years, wow.. the things I seen. I'm sure O.T.R drivers also see some very crazy accidents. Being in sanitation a driver will get used to their routes and streets etc.. Being a truck driver is never the same routine always in different locations. So it's always wise to learn and know what options are for that accident situation & legal protection / if it were to happen.
     
  4. Cat sdp

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    In reality .....the job is not worth the risk .
     
  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I was going back through the comments on this thread and took extra note of the ones I will quote below.

    The driver is the public face of the carrier. It just makes common sense the driver has to be the cause.

    I would add running legal in all aspects of this job.

    Yes, I have. It's almost impossible for the average large fleet to find an underwriter that will do so without a huge amount of money. This is the prime reason most large fleets are "self insured". They hire an insurance company to monitor the insurance to satisfy the legal, but in the case of a claim the carrier themselves pay it.

    Your comment is a sad commentary on the state of trucking in the 21st century. I don't think a carrier/driver can make the risk go away, but I do think they can minimize said risk by operating legal. The lawsuits are going to happen, that is a fact. What separates a generally small award from a huge game-changer is the simple notion did the defendants violate the law?
     
  6. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    That's only a partial issue, because there is a regulation of the driver with a qualifying factor to operate the equipment, the driver is held liable as much as the carrier. There could be an exception and that is if the Feds put into law to prevent the liability to be placed on the driver, as they do for the airlines.
     
  7. calnca

    calnca Medium Load Member

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    Reading these responses makes me laugh......like a TS diner....listening to all the experts.

    Yes, drivers can be sued individually while driving a company owned power unit.

    The company insurance policy covers the Named Insured AND employee drivers, while operating within the scope of their employment.

    Where drivers get sued individually is typically when there is gross negligence on behalf of the driver. While the company policy will cover liability up to the policy limit, and due to the Cumis decision they are entitled to a defense separate from the Named Insured. Defense costs are outside the limit of liability.

    The way we would cover a driver who wanted his OWN insurance and own defense is to do a Named Driver policy, where driver is covered for any commercial vehicle he operates under his CDL
     
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  8. Cat sdp

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    Who is we...?

    If your in the insurance industry how much would such a policy cost....?
    30 years ago as a company driver I was quoted $5K for a commercial umbrella policy to cover me..

    Nowadays I’d bet they won’t even write such a policy
     
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    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    And then you piped in with your "expert" opinion. I'm still laughing at you, not with you, but at you!
     
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  10. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Considering a considerable segment of this industry self underwrite, I am pretty sure getting a policy is possible. I'm just not sure how much a driver will be forced to pay for it. Just with insurance on a POV, I was talking to one of my neighbors who uses his car as a part of his job. His routes were changed and when he was recently asked about where he went to and how many miles he drove, his insurance carrier almost doubled his premium.
     
  11. calnca

    calnca Medium Load Member

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    Well I'd consider 52 years underwriting trucking business as someone who knows more about the subject than you......so laugh on and show your ##*
     
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