OTR Advise please

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Palazon, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. Palazon

    Palazon Road Train Member

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    Let me start by saying I've been driving heavy haul for Swift for the past 16 months. My base schedule right now is 60-70 hrs in 6 days, 34 off at home, rinse and repeat.
    Since I'm not making very good money, I am considering going OTR western and southern ( I live in Seattle area). NOT IN A SWIFT TRUCK!!!!!!! Since that will involve being out for 14-30 days at a time, I wanted to ask the OTR guys (and gals) how they manage their hours.

    One option is to maintain a 9hr work day average, so I always have a 14 hr day available at the 7th, if needed. Or just run as hard as they call for and spend 34's in truck stops.

    On a 9 hr days that's 15 min each for pre/post trips, 8.5 driving. Average 55 mph (California, Oregon :biggrin_25510:) 460 miles daily # .33/mile. roughly $150 a day x7 so a little over 1k per week if I can get it. Thats 300 more a week than I'm getting right now working 6 10-14 hr days.

    Opinions, pitfalls? Anything I'm not seeing?
    Thanks
     
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  3. ssbowles

    ssbowles Heavy Load Member

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    Personally I run as hard as I need to and take a 34 when I run out. It's usually too hard to make the 8.75 hours per day match up to the real world. You're normally dispatched according to what hours you have available to run, not how many you want to run.
     
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  4. ScooterDawg

    ScooterDawg <strong>"The Blue Tick Lab"</strong>

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    I agree.... you end up running 'em like you get 'em.

    Flip side, I run electronic logs, and in the last 2 weeks (9-1 thru 9-15), I got 6600 miles. And I did do a 34 in the midst of it all. Based on your $.33, that's $1089 each week.

    I generally stay out 14 days at a time and it is not so bad. Makes the homecoming that much better:biggrin_25517:
     
  5. 48Packard

    48Packard Ol' Two-stop Shag!

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    I've done both...the 8.75/day thing, and the "run 'til you're out of hours and need a 34" thing.

    Lately, I've been running all-out (when there's freight) and taking a 34 on Sunday (I'm usually out about 19 days at a time). That's the way I prefer to work it. We also do a lot of drop and hook, so there's less rigidity in scheduling.
     
  6. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    It's not about all those miles.......

    First off...
    You need to determine what it cost to run down the road.....


    Mortgage on equipment....
    Fuel cost....
    Insurance costs...
    Registration.....
    IFTA taxes....
    HUT (Highway use taxes)

    If you run in or through Oregon.....you need to file a bond for the first year or two....

    NM requires a separate "Weight-Distance" tax....

    All of your maintenance costs.....
    Permits....

    If you run an older rig.....it (please take my word on this one...if you pay attention to nothing else) will be the proverbial "Hole in the road"......

    Add up those costs......and break it down by the mile..... and that will give you what it costs to operate your rig.....you need to also draw a salary....which is NOT PROFIT!!!!! and include that in the break-down....That number is your "BEP" or Break-Even Point.....

    Now when you see a load posted for say $2100 to go from Fontana to Portland (roughly 1000 miles) do the math and that's $2.10/m.....

    Sounds good right?
    If your BEP is $1.50/m...that's great...If it's $2.20/m.....not so great...

    Also.....a $2.10/m load isn't so great if you have to deadhead back 500 miles to get your next load.......


    So it's not the miles that count when you are an O/O......it's the gross or TTT and how it relates to your BEP.......


    Lastly.....some guys will say that $1.50/m is "cheap".......It all depends on your BEP....
    There are O/Os that actually make a profit on $1/m loads.....It all depends on the circumstances....
     
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  7. ssbowles

    ssbowles Heavy Load Member

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    That's all good info, but I think the OP was asking about the 70 hour time management. Sounds to me like a company driver, not an O/O.
     
  8. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    Ah.....Got you....


     
  9. REDD

    REDD The Legend

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    I actually think that NM abolished that & went with straight IFTA filings. I have not been asked for my fuel tax permit all year....
     
  10. ssbowles

    ssbowles Heavy Load Member

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    They're just doing it paperless now.
     
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  11. Palazon

    Palazon Road Train Member

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    Thanks to all for the input.
     
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