Fair hourly wage vs mileage?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by greaterbaatezu, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. eckz

    eckz <strong>"Radio Rambo"</strong>

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    I'd be happy with current pay, as long as we are guaranteed something for all the additional work required of us.. Fueling, waiting, loading unloading, etc.

    They would lose money paying us for that stuff, and things would change on it's own account.
     
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  3. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    one thing that pisses me off is how companies dont treat drivers the same

    for example, working for crst:
    I was trained by an owner/op. We'd get solo loads, drop them in yards days early for otr drivers to city work on.

    As a team company driver, i was given solo loads and forced to sit with them to deliver them. Or forced to do city work for peanuts. City work pay? $15 per driver plus regular milage pay. They'd avoid paying layover pay if i sat for a weekend by giving me a city work load that delivered in 3 days. Nobody really understands why i complain about this. theyre like, "atleast you hada load!"......if i was being paid layover pay, i'd get $40 per day, instead of $5 per day. Come on!

    I was usually run so few miles that i was starving and lost my home, etc. But at one poitn I had a codriver that just came from JB Hunt. Instantly, 6000 miles per week.

    see any issues? totally unfair.

    Oh, and then theres detention pay. Oh, the customer doesnt pay us it so we cant pay it to you. That's just ridiculous. How would you like it if you worked in an office, lets say you were an engineer and engineered up a bridge? The bridge was built. Your boss refuses to pay you for 3 weeks of work. "oh, the customer didnt pay us for the design."......And guess what? You could sue that guy!
     
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  4. eckz

    eckz <strong>"Radio Rambo"</strong>

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    Yep! Exactly. How about walking into burger king and demanding a whopper, at the same time saying you are only going to pay 50 cents for it?

    Would they sell you one? Doubtful. You'd get laughed out of the place.
     
  5. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    eckz, but you can order fries at burger king, eat half of them and claim theyre cold and get more. Or buy a cake at walmart, eat most of it, and return it claiming there was a hair in it...and get 100% refund. Or even worse...you know the walmart delis, where you get food served and then pay for it at a checkout? someone got some chicken wings, didnt pay, ate them, and returned them saying there was no chicken in the package. In other words, walmart paid this person to eat their chicken. And yes, this really happened, I worked at the walmart it happened at. :D
     
  6. chief

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    um, yeh. do you have a source for this? besides, it's none of your business how much profit the owner(s) make. I'm also not sure how an owner would get a "bonus." whatever money is left over after all the bills are paid (including YOUR wages,) belongs to the owner.


    um, how did the cat get fat if he's never worked? where did he get the money to BUY/START the company which is providing YOU with employment? have you ever started or run a business? I doubt it. have you ever considered that a LOT of trucking companies were started (and are owned) by people who drove a truck for decades? but instead of wasting their earnings on beer, cigarettes, nascar memorabilia, cable TV, and rusty old muscle cars, these "fat cats" used their money to make more money - and to start and grow the company WHICH PROVIDES YOUR EMPLOYMENT. maybe some of you guys could stop being envious of someone else's success and look at ways that you could better your own life. and if you lost your home, it was because you didn't pay the mortgage or property taxes. that's YOUR fault, NOT your "fat cat" boss's fault. take (risk) your OWN money and start a company and run it (if you can.) THEN you can pay employees all you want (since what your employer pays YOU isn't fair.) let's see how successful you are.
     
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  7. The Challenger

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    If you go to work for stevens straight out of school and get 3500 miles a week and multiply it by their rate of .26 going solo and divide it by 70 you get $13 an hour. Now as the cpm increases so does your hourly. What strikes me is that many people coming in to this industry does not do their research and think you get paid overtime after 40.

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  8. chief

    chief Heavy Load Member

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    first of all, NO one is getting 3,500 miles a week. when times are good, you'd be lucky to get 3,000 miles a week. but you're NOT going to cover 3,000 miles in a 70 hour work week. to calculate realistic working hours, you need to figure 14 hours a day (7 X 14 = 98.) you CAN'T drive 3,000 miles in 5 days unless you never sleep. and your loads are NOT going to work out where you can drive that much each day any way.

    if you got 2,500 miles in a week, multiply that times your CPM. and divide that by 85 hours (40 + 30 over time.) if you do that, you'll come out with a more reasonable $7.64 an hour assuming 26 CPM. for the driver who would say that there's no way they'd drive for 26 CPM, or only drive 2,500 miles a week, well...yeh....plenty of drivers right now are getting 0 CPM and 0 miles a week.
     
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  9. Tank33

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    3000 miles divided by 5 days equals 600 miles per day....that is easily obtainable in my opinion, especially in Canada where we can drive 13 hours per day. When I don't get screwed over by dispatchers or equipment problems, 600-700 mile days is common, or at least it used to be, when the freight was there.
     
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  10. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    Tank, and how do the loads get on and off your truck exactly? You never have to wait at a warehouse for 1 to 10 hours? I dunno about Canada, but i've never seen a 3500 mile load in the US. I mean, sure, its possible, but it doesn't make much sense for a shipper to ship it 5000 miles..
     
  11. Tank33

    Tank33 Medium Load Member

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    MOST times, I get lucky, and it is, grab this trailer, and take it to this terminal, and then drop, and grab this trailer, and take it to this terminal, so on and so forth.

    In all honesty, I have been very lucky, and I will flat out admit, my situation is very rare, and even I am surprised at how well things have gone lately, as it is not usually like this. I have delivered 6 loads to customers, in the last 4 months, everything else, has been straight yard to yard, pin to pin.

    I WISH I could find a job where it was 100% pin to pin and no delivering, but it would also be nice to be a millionaire too!
     
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