Yes thanks for your help. I'm starting to get it. Basically the 14 Hr won't stop running no matter what. But the goal is to maximize the drive time of 11Hr,out of 5he max 14 hours shift correct?
ELD log books hours. Please help me to understand of it works. Thanks.
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by jc3737, Aug 22, 2020.
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Yes, you have that right. Even if you start your clock to do your pretrip then don't drive at all, after 7 hours sitting you will only have 7 hrs left to drive.jc3737 Thanks this.
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Thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate your time in helping me. More than I can tell you, sincerely thank you.
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That resets it. But you can pause it.
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Yes, if you are paid by the mile or the load then you want to maximize your driving time by saving your 70hr clock.
For example, I only log 15 mins for pre trip. When I get to the shipper or whatever I go on duty as quickly as possible. I log maybe 15 minutes on duty for loading/unloading then I go off duty and stay off duty until I am ready to leave. Even if I am in the dock for hours I never log more than 15 min on duty. I save my time for driving which is when I earn money.jc3737 Thanks this. -
Man, let him get the basics first before throwing in split sleeper. There are some drivers with years of experience that still don't understand splits and there are companies out there who don't allow it because of so much confusion.Wasted Thyme and jc3737 Thank this.
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You're overthinking it.
Simplier example:
You go on-duty @ 0700. You pre-trip then drive to the shipper arriving @ 0800. It takes the shipper until 1400 (6 hours) to load you and provide you with paperwork. Assuming you've taken a recent 30 minute break you can drive until 2100 or 7 hours. I know this exactly what you figured out but you over thought it. Keep it simple.jc3737 Thanks this. -
So do companies not teach how to run a log book anymore???
It is really simple...
Once you start working after an OFF DUTY/SLEEPER period of 10 or more hours, you then have 14 hours until the truck must be parked. But NO MORE THAN 11 of those 14 hours may be spent driving. Once either the 11 hours are used driving, OR the 14 hours have elapsed, another 10 hour period of OFF DUTY/SLEEPER is required to reset the 11 and 14 hour clocks. One CAN perform ON DUTY tasks past the 14 hour window, but the truck can not move until a single 10 period of OFF DUTY/SLEEPER is taken AFTER said ON DUTY tasks are completed.jc3737 and SoulScream84 Thank this. -
Not trying to confuse the guy but split break can stop that clock. And if the new Hours of Service actually do start on Sept 29, then the 14 hr rule won't mean much anymore realistically. Everyone will be able to stop the clock for 3 hours and do 7-3 or 8-2 splits. You can bet some of these companies are going to push their drivers to use that time sitting at the docks.Hulld Thanks this.
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I spoke with a DOT officer the other day about this upcomimg change. He told me that they are being trained that even an OFF DUTY period of MORE than 3 hours will keep the 14 hr paused, provided that at least 7 hrs of SLEEPER are shown either before or after the shift. So basically the 14 hr dont mean #### anymore... It will be interesting to see how it all comes out in the wash.
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