Hello everyone,
I am new to the forum and excited to be able to share and receive feedback from many of you. One of the main reasons that I joined was to ask for advice from all of you who are Owner operators/Independent Motor Carriers as I am. My trucks have been running for almost 4 years now. I must confess that I now see the financial setback I have put myself into by not having funds from the beginning, to back me up in these difficult times. I pretty much threwmyself into the water with nothing more but a passion and respect for big rigs and a need to become my own boss. 2009 has definately been a very slow and difficult year as far as trying to keep my account from going NSF. My debt has peaked due to relying on business and personal Credit cards to pay for repairs, diesel, and over the road expenses. I still owe on my equipment, in need of yet more repairs, must soon come up with Insurance renewal down payment, and to top it all off, over 10k that I must pay back to the IRS. To illustrate my situatio further, I do factor my invoices and everything up to last December seemed to be running peacefully. I am still paying a mortgage also, incurr office expenses, loads are extremely underpaid, and I had the misfortune of having two brokers still owe me money (I'm trying to deal with that legally). Can anybody offer some advice? I'm really trying to avoid getting a loan, but is that my only option? What should I do now? Get out of business? Wait it out? Sell my company or equipment?
Very much Stressed & blue
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Carrier in desperate need of advice. Please Help!! New to Forum.
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Marher, Oct 1, 2009.
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That's debt for you.
That's why previous generations never bought things on credit and waited till they could afford it.
It's not just you. The entire culture today it to leverage everything, to the point of borrowing money to buy stocks, and it's going to lead to a massive economic crash. The only thing that is not know is exactly when it will come crashing down. -
Very true, sometimes I find a little consolation to know that I am not the only one in trouble, however I feel the pressure to figure it all out before I dig myself into a bigger hole. What's your story Bob? Nice to meet you and thanks for replying.
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Perhaps posting this in the owner operators section would result in more gooder answers....
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Thanks for the tip jtrnr1951
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So how many trucks did you start with because I take from your post one wasn't enough?
If you're not making any money after running 4 years you are doing something very wrong. Do you have an accountant? Get one and pay the price for a good one.
Use this theory the truck gets paid before you do. Puts everything in perspective. If you're trucks aren't making any money after 4 years then you are taking cheap freight.
You might do better signing on with a company since you're not having very good luck with brokers. I run under my own authority, I have contacts and no I'm not sharing. I worked hard making people happy and building my list.
All I can tell you for sure is the trucking industry will take all you have if you don't get it back on track. Most people don't understand that until they get in your position. Guess us who have beening doing this forever in a year make it look easy....hell no we just know how to make it in a lousy economy.
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Thanks for your insight madbunny. I appreciate all the feedback I can get. Well I do have my own authority, I do have a list of many contacts myself, and you're absolutely right about the truck getting paid first, believe me I've put back into those trucks more than anything. I also have an accountant who takes care of my End of year taxes, from what I am finding out...the hard way, is that I need to incorporate. I am partnered with my father, it's a family business. We don't have any issues as to how much or who gets what, thankfully. This year however, I have been beaten with the ugly stick as far as having to take, like you said, cheaper loads due to the fact that there isn't much moving at the moment. My drivers have seen an increasing number of out of state trucks that are now doing the same loads we have been since we started, many of these aren't going back to where they came from, i.e. California plates, many of them. Backhaul is low, and sometimes none at all. I too understand how hard you have to work for those contacts and how important it is to conserve that relationship, sucks that some although they want to help, have nothng to offer at the moment. I realize I am limited to how far I can move since I'm intrastate. To answer your first question I started with one truck, and gradually added 3 more, two of my own and an o/o working w/me.
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I'm not an owner, but just from general information I'm hearing on the financial networks, banks are still not lending. If you're planning on getting a loan, you might start working on it now and getting the paper work in order. Hopefully, you won't have to do that, but if you do, you'll know what you're dealing with when the time comes.
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If you having a rough time, give the o/o notice and cut him loose. I didn't know you were running intrastate. Eeek?
Texas is big but not that big for the economy.
I don't ever got to CA, I didn't fit (I would now since I'm a 50' split axle reefer but they are ########) nor do I go to the NE and stay out of Florida (personally opinion).
I think you're going to have to broaden your driving area (go interstate) and maybe your contacts can help you know where they have loads. -
Who told you that you have to incorporate?
Find yourself a new accountant. A truckers accountant should be accepting your receipts & statements on a monthly basis & producing a P&L statement for you MONTHLY! With a monthly P&L you can see where all your money is going & can attempt to make appropriate changes when needed.
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