what's your favorite 'old school' truck?

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by gomoto69, Sep 21, 2009.

  1. gomoto69

    gomoto69 Bobtail Member

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    hello everyone, I'm all new here! I'm a newbie driver, just in the process of getting my class one here in bc, canada. My plan is to work hauling gravel and eventually buy myself a used dump truck, therein lies my questions! I'm a liscensed auto mechanic, but my heavy truck experience is small. I'm looking for opinions/advice as to what would be the best truck and years of trucks to look at. I would like to stay away from emission controlled and electronic controlled engines. I think i would prefer either cummins power (n-14) or cat (3406) but i don't know what the newest model i could look at that is still mechanically injected. I've looked at adds for kenworth t 800's, western star's, and peterbuilts, all with similar power and axle ratings. Which one is best? is it all personal preference, or is there a superior truck in that list? Then, what about Mack? I know some guys swear by them, others shy away, i guess i'm just looking for some advice from you guys that have been doing this for years. I drive an old '98 dodge 4x4 with a cummins in it and love the truck, i guess i'm looking for that kind of dependability and efficiency in a dump truck. thanks in advance for any help!
     
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  3. C16KIWI

    C16KIWI Medium Load Member

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    Early 1992 Mack Superliner last ones with the non computer E-9s and with a 18spd not the old 12spd,wish I never sold mine:biggrin_25512:
     
  4. cat from the valley

    cat from the valley Medium Load Member

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    wat hp was it pushing
     
  5. noble one

    noble one Light Load Member

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    It all depends on what the main use of the truck is going to be. I know you said hauling gravel but the question is from where and to where. I was in the paving business in niagara on for 16 years and we paved in a lot of tight spots. Macks were to big and bulky. What we found the best for our multiuse needs were International triaxles. They seemed to be really tough as we had a lot of real cowboys driving them and we had very little problems with them. A paving truck gets used and abused and on some excavation jobs where we would be dumping on site we loaded those trucks with 40 tons.
     
  6. C16KIWI

    C16KIWI Medium Load Member

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    Never had it dynoed,500hp standard but had done over a million kms and smoked like it was running on coal so your guess is as good as mine
     
  7. Mack427

    Mack427 Medium Load Member

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    it didn't take much to get a E9 to 750hp but parts for them are getting harder but mostly more expensive to get, I would look for a 98 or older RD688 e7 350 or 400 manual pump 13spd Mack or 18 fuller 4.42 or 4.64 gears 44k on bronze bushing camelback
     
  8. gomoto69

    gomoto69 Bobtail Member

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    thanks for the input everyone. To noble one, what years and engine/trans combo where the internationals? Also, how were the macks for fuel efficiency copared to say a cat or cummins? Should i stay away from air bag suspension?
     
  9. noble one

    noble one Light Load Member

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    Well I'm not entirely sure. I was the sales manager and my main concern was "Getin er done" Which ment all our trucks had to be up and running. I think most of trucks had cat engines in them and 13 speed trannys. I always thought that there was no sence in having too big a box on a triaxle because the weight limits mean your running around with it half full most of the time. Another reason that we picked International was that there was hundreds of them in the local wrecking yd. We bought a lot of used parts and they served us well.
     
  10. Mack427

    Mack427 Medium Load Member

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    my e7's usually get 7.2-7.6 in warm months I've have 3406's and N-14's the Mack beats them 1-1.2mpg on a daily basis if your going off road much camleback, mack beam or walking beam is priceless the truck will go through mud that will sitck any air ride
     
  11. smokin809

    smokin809 Light Load Member

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    Int or K/w, light weight, go mech N14 or 3406C mech, But it's hard to beat an old mack.
     
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