FMCSA ELD exemption question.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by John Bertucci, Sep 16, 2020.

  1. Diesel Junkie

    Diesel Junkie Bobtail Member

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    This, all this arguing about emissions and data plates blah blah blah.
     
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  3. Diesel Junkie

    Diesel Junkie Bobtail Member

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    Plus almost every vehicle ever was built in the year prior to its actual model year.
     
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  4. John Bertucci

    John Bertucci Light Load Member

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    So this sticker on the inside of the driver side door verifies i have a year model 1999 engine correct?
     

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  5. John Bertucci

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    Zvar will you please show me where you found this so I can keep it on hand in case i need to use the information to cover myself?
     
  6. Long FLD

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    Yes, your engine is a 99. But if your truck isn’t a glider then it goes by your VIN, and you said your truck is a 2000. I’d “reposed” your truck on paper and keep the records with you and just run paper logs.
     
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  7. ZVar

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    That's correct. Unless, of course, the engine has been swapped out.

    Here's the link to the guidance. When does the pre-2000 model year exception apply? | FMCSA
     
  8. John Bertucci

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  9. ZVar

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    From the guidance....
    "Vehicles with engines predating model year 2000 are also accepted and are not required to have an ELD, even if the VIN number reported on the registration indicates that the CMV is a later model year."

    No mention a glider is required in the guidance. Any engine with a model year of 1999 or older is fine, as long as, of course, the engine is legal to begin with. I.E. cant take out at 2020 engine and drop in a 1999 engine.
     
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  10. John Bertucci

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    I am not sure what reposed means here but I had to look it up and learned a new word today. it doesn't state that only gliders that have pre 2000 engines are exempt, it just says gliders are the most common it also says in the wording that if the truck has a 1999 or older engine then it goes off the engine and not the vin. I cut some of the pieces out from the FMCSA guidance that Zvar provided to support my claim.

    "there may be instances when the model year reflected on the vehicle registration is not the same as the engine model year, most commonly when a vehicle is rebuilt using a “glider kit” or when an engine is swapped from one vehicle to another." "Vehicles with engines predating model year 2000 are also accepted and are not required to have an ELD, even if the VIN number reported on the registration indicates that the CMV is a later model year."
     
  11. John Bertucci

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    Have you seen where they say its illegal to take a 2020 engine out and drop in a 1999? I have seen a youtube video where some company in florida was making newer trucks that had emissions engines into "gliders" and it got me curious about the legality of doing this sort of thing. It would be nice to slap a DD60 in one of the fancy newer models if i can get away with it and not have to pay the glider F-U price.
     
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