Cummins ISX 15 cm2350 Black Coolant

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  1. WRshop2020

    WRshop2020 Bobtail Member

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    I'm working on a 2015 isx 15, the coolant is as black as oil. Pulled an oil sample from the reservoir and it is not oil in the coolant as it would separate into 2 layers. And the coolant has no particular smell to it like it would if it had diesel in it from the injector cups. I'm thinking soot in the coolant. Pulled the egr cooler outlet pipe off and everything is dry, the valve, turbo outlet pipe and the inlet and outlet side of the egr cooler is dry. The next place it could be is the head gasket so I got the combustion leak detector fluid and got the fluid to change color twice and that was it, I could not get it to do it again. But after I shut the truck off, after about 3-5 minutes of sitting big bubbles starting coming out of the reservoir.

    What I am thinking is the head gasket is pushing combustion gas into the coolant intermittently. Do you guys have any thoughts on this? Do not want to pull a head off for nothing and waste an owner ops money.
     
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  3. rmankid

    rmankid Bobtail Member

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    The bubbles certainly make it look like compression in the cooling system. A failed air compressor can behave the same way and dirty the coolant. While this isn't the culprit very often it certainly does happen.

    One strategy we follow when troubleshooting this complaint is to first remove the belt from the water pump so the coolant doesn't circulate. Next, drain the coolant and remove the thermostat, re-install the empty thermostat housing and leave the upper hose off. Fill the cooling system through the thermostat housing. You can now operate the engine and if compression is entering the cooling system it will migrate to the to opening and you'll see bubbles. Next, if you do see bubbles you'll want to identify a cylinder. We will crank the engine over without starting it, hopefully you'll see bubbles during cranking. If you do then remove the injectors and pressurize the cylinders using a rubber tipped blow gun; make sure the valves are closed when you charge the cylinder with air. BIG CAUTION THOUGH. When you pressurize the cylinder the engine will likely spin over. Make sure you're clear of the fan or anything on the front of the engine or camshafts. Using the blowgun doesn't add a lot of pressure in the cylinder so really pay attention to the coolant level, you may only see a subtle rise of the fluid level and not a steady stream of bubbles.

    If we do identify a cylinder we then rotate the engine so the piston is up top, again with the valves closed (TDC) and pressurize the cylinder using the blow gun. The purpose of this final step is to rule out the possibility of a pin-hole in a liner being the leak path. Newer engines don't typically fail this way (pin holes) but again, anything's possible. Hopefully this all makes sense, good luck.
     
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  4. Snailexpress

    Snailexpress Road Train Member

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    Head gasket, cracked head, cracked cylinder. In NAPA you can buy coolant test kit to test it for combustion gases. If test positive drop oil pan and pressurize coolant system about 20 PSI for the night. Next day bare engine and check every cylinder for coolant.
     
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  5. International man

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    Most likely the oil cooler
     
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