Just curious what yall know about whether or not you have to log the road test during orientations as line 3, or line 4, or at all? Are ya supposed to take yer log book with you? Don't remember ever having to with the companies I road-tested with, but just wondering what would happen if, by chance, you got pulled over during your road test (let's assume, for a second, that you did nothing wrong, cop or dot is just bored and having some fun) what would happen if you didn't have your log book with you?
Do you log a road test during orientation?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Raezzor, Aug 6, 2009.
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Every orientation I ever went through has been logged on line 4...except the road test and that was on line 3.
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The road test is under the 100 mile rule, so a log book is not needed.
Technically, you are not hired until the orientation is completed.Raezzor Thanks this. -
Your employment status has nothing to do with your logbook so far as the DOT is concerned. Even after you get hired. Some companies put policies in place that contradict DOT rules and regs, such as fueling or mandatory logbook speed requirements... BUT if the DOT breaks out the mapping software and calculator and find your actual MPH was 58 and you log it at 64 mph, you might get in trouble...even though you follow company policy. Not many bigger companies do that anymore but there are a few around.
The under 100 mile limit is in a grey area. Legally you wouldn't be required to log it, but it wouldn't be illegal to log it anyway. That comes down to driver choice and how your company wants you to log it AFTER you get hired. A lot of companies are paranoid about the small stuff. I would ask during orientation about how they want it logged. And make sure you get a definitive answer!Raezzor Thanks this. -
Ya, figured if I had to could always ask the tester/orientation facilitator. Just wondered what yalls experience was. Been a bit since I've been through an orientation so couldn't remember on my own. Heck, I'm surprised I remember what I had for lunch the day before sometimes...
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That's not true. The 100 mile exempttion has other requirements such as time cards the company keeps and records of work history. So just just because your within 100 miles theres others requirements needed.
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I dont think a log book would be required since you dont actually have a job with them yet. I think once you told the officer you were out on your road test that would be the end of it. Unless you did something wrong to get pulled over and well I dont like your chances of getting hired.(LOL)
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I have never logged a road test. Sense you are not hired by the company and it's my time that I choose to use getting info on the company I might be going to work for I don't log it at all. Some companies want you to log 3 days with 8hrs on line 4. but thats for them not me.
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That exemption you are referring to is AFTER YOU ARE EMPLOYED.
When we would road test guys, it was done during the beginning of orientation.
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Ok..this is the way it was explained to me.
" if your being payed for a Job, it's on Duty time, Even if it's not at your trucking job..it's compensated time ( on Duty )
it's all about the 11,14,70 hour rule..
Driving
All time spent at the driving controls of a
commercial motor vehicle in operation
On-Duty
All of the time from the time a driver begins
work until he or she is relieved from all the responsibilities
for performing work
On-duty includes:
1. Driving
2. Performing any and all other duties required
by the carrier
3. Time spent traveling to, from and during the
course of providing breath and/or alcohol
specimens for drug and alcohol tests required
under federal regulations
4. Performing any compensated work for any
non-motor carrier entity (part-time jobs)
Off-Duty
When relieved of all responsibility for
performing work by the employer and not
performing any other compensated work
Sleeper berth
A sleeping compartment conforming with the
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations
thats the way I understand it..so to me, I would log it as it happens..
Driving ( Behind the wheel )
On Duty/Not driving ( in class room )
it's all compensated time by the employer.
I think by Law this is right ??
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