weights on Rate cons?

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by lokltrkr, Dec 15, 2020.

  1. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    Up to 40k I usually let it slide, but the big difference for me lays between 42-45k.
    I had instances loading with 44-45k and having to come back to rework it, because axle weight was messed up.
    Coming back for a rework means wasting who knows how many hours and if shipper is big and extremely busy, that means you are potentially wasting the whole day and maybe even will have to reschedule the delivery appointment.
     
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  3. PPNLE

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    You missed the bit where I was circling back to the original poster's question with the last paragraph in my post above. My comments to you were separate and distinct. Apologies for any lack of clarity here.
     
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  4. DMTLLC

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    Your right I missed it...My Bad!
     
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  5. PPNLE

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    No worries! Stuff happens.
     
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  6. TallJoe

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    You are making fuss about one super light load turning out to be still a light load anyways.
    If instead of 4 500 lbs, they loaded you with 45 000 lbs and you go through mountains then maybe it would deserve some intervention. Otherwise, it is a non issue.
    It works both ways. Never did I call a broker and offered to reduce my rate because I left the shipper with 20 000 lbs less, not that it would matter much in fuel savings, anyways. I don't like to overcomplicate things when the rate is decent. I'd say that on a dry van vs reefer they more often underload than overload too. Besides, 20k lbs vs 45k lbs may matter when a rate is negotiated, but 4000 lbs vs 20 000 never. Brokers themselves may not know what exact weight will be but it is still ridiculous to think that someone wanted to swindle you into taking a load of 17000 lbs vs 4.500 lbs, because you would have deserved any higher rate. I think you are new at this and overreacted, potentially created animosity with the broker too.
     
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  7. God prefers Diesels

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    I just posted about this a couple days ago. They're getting a truck designed to gross 80k, so bill for the truck. If they only want to ship one pallet, that's not your problem. You aren't an LTL company. Don't drop your rate for a partial, or something light.

    Also, not all brokers are the Devil. I was going to haul a load for $1,200 until I found out it needed tarped, so I told him $1,300. He went for it. In the end, it didn't actually need tarped. This was before he even sent the rate con. He didn't ask for the $100 back. It washes. Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug. If you always try to be the windshield, you're just gonna die young and bitter with a lot of gray hair.
     
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  8. Ruthless

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    Based on the OP question; sounds like it was a bulk load paid by the ton.
    Ie for unknown math/ @48k & $20 a ton/ you show up & they only have 17k to put on, leaves the rate at $170 instead of $480.
    The broker wants to pay based on ton rate for what shipped instead of the agreed ton rate for a full load.

    For @lokltrkr what you might do in the future is state a base minimum at the agreed on ton rate.
    “i’ll do $xxx a ton, with a xx,xxx minimum net weight”
    You know your baseline n so does the person you are working with.
     
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  9. TallJoe

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    If that's the case, I recant what I said earlier and side with the OP as the broker's wrongdoing is obvious and OP's reaction adequate.Thanks for clarifying.
    Another example of 4.5k lbs vs 17.5k becoming a problem would be in case of an LTL load, when that difference could simply make it impossible to load.
     
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  10. God prefers Diesels

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    Same here.
     
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  11. PPNLE

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    Yeah, that's why I said I need more information than what OP actually posted. Because there's any number of reasons why there may or may not be an expectation of more pay for the load.
     
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