Up to 40k I usually let it slide, but the big difference for me lays between 42-45k.
I had instances loading with 44-45k and having to come back to rework it, because axle weight was messed up.
Coming back for a rework means wasting who knows how many hours and if shipper is big and extremely busy, that means you are potentially wasting the whole day and maybe even will have to reschedule the delivery appointment.
weights on Rate cons?
Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by lokltrkr, Dec 15, 2020.
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If instead of 4 500 lbs, they loaded you with 45 000 lbs and you go through mountains then maybe it would deserve some intervention. Otherwise, it is a non issue.
It works both ways. Never did I call a broker and offered to reduce my rate because I left the shipper with 20 000 lbs less, not that it would matter much in fuel savings, anyways. I don't like to overcomplicate things when the rate is decent. I'd say that on a dry van vs reefer they more often underload than overload too. Besides, 20k lbs vs 45k lbs may matter when a rate is negotiated, but 4000 lbs vs 20 000 never. Brokers themselves may not know what exact weight will be but it is still ridiculous to think that someone wanted to swindle you into taking a load of 17000 lbs vs 4.500 lbs, because you would have deserved any higher rate. I think you are new at this and overreacted, potentially created animosity with the broker too.Last edited: Dec 15, 2020
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I just posted about this a couple days ago. They're getting a truck designed to gross 80k, so bill for the truck. If they only want to ship one pallet, that's not your problem. You aren't an LTL company. Don't drop your rate for a partial, or something light.
Also, not all brokers are the Devil. I was going to haul a load for $1,200 until I found out it needed tarped, so I told him $1,300. He went for it. In the end, it didn't actually need tarped. This was before he even sent the rate con. He didn't ask for the $100 back. It washes. Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug. If you always try to be the windshield, you're just gonna die young and bitter with a lot of gray hair.PPNLE Thanks this. -
Based on the OP question; sounds like it was a bulk load paid by the ton.
Ie for unknown math/ @48k & $20 a ton/ you show up & they only have 17k to put on, leaves the rate at $170 instead of $480.
The broker wants to pay based on ton rate for what shipped instead of the agreed ton rate for a full load.
For @lokltrkr what you might do in the future is state a base minimum at the agreed on ton rate.
“i’ll do $xxx a ton, with a xx,xxx minimum net weight”
You know your baseline n so does the person you are working with.Last edited: Dec 16, 2020
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Another example of 4.5k lbs vs 17.5k becoming a problem would be in case of an LTL load, when that difference could simply make it impossible to load.God prefers Diesels Thanks this. -
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