Gvw on door

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Plowboy92, Dec 3, 2020.

  1. Plowboy92

    Plowboy92 Bobtail Member

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    I see the weight ratings on doors, how does this work if you are pulling different trailers?
    A 2 axle van and 5 axle container chassis are certainly going to have different loaded weights..
     
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  3. Idaho MTN Driver

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    In Idaho you register your truck at the highest GVW you plan on running at. I think it's in 2,000 pound increments if I remember. And the higher your GVW the more you're going to pay to register your rig. So if you sometimes pull a two axle van (GVW 80,000) and sometimes pull a four axle flatbed (GVW 105,500) you would need to be registered (at least in Idaho) with a GVW of 105,500. But that 105,50 is going to cost quite a bit more in registration fees then 80,000.
     
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  4. Plowboy92

    Plowboy92 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks. I know its a rookie question but gotta start somewhere.

    So if a guy registers for say 90k but is at a scale house with 105k, legally loaded and bridges out fine. That's still illegal since its not registered for that weight?
     
  5. Idaho MTN Driver

    Idaho MTN Driver Bobtail Member

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    Yes, you could get a ticket. Really depends on the DOT guy. Some might overlook it, some won't. I don't think they care so much that you're "legal" weight wise - I think they care that you aren't paying the registration fee (tax) for the weight you're running.
     
  6. motocross25

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    Also some of those come with provisions. Here in KS we are registered for 85,500. But can’t have that on the interstate. Also even tho we are licensed for that in Kansas and Nebraska. We can’t load 85,500 in Kansas and take it into Nebraska. The load has to originate and end in that state. This is all stuff you may know, but seeing you say you were new, I thought I’d shed some more light.
     
  7. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Curious where it says heavy loads have to originate and terminate in KS? Because I load 90k ag loads all the time and go back north. Same with bringing 90k into KS.
     
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  8. motocross25

    motocross25 Road Train Member

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    Nowhere. I’m sorry, I’m way wrong. I got my thinking confused with the commercial zone in KCMO. We can’t load 85,500 in Kansas and cross into the commercial zone in Missouri. The commercial zone load has to originate and end in the commercial zone. I apologize for any confusion.
     
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  9. AKDoug

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    Don't worry about it. The Pete in my profile pics has a GCVWR of 80,000lbs on the door tag. I regularly run over that when it's legal. In it's previous life it was a 100,000lbs fuel hauler. Scales worry about axle weights and bridge formula. My new truck doesn't even have a GCVWR tag on its door frame.
     
  10. Scalemaster

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    Changing the subject a bit...

    What jurisdiction requires the GVW to be marked on the door?
     
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  11. kwswan

    kwswan Road Train Member

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    Pretty sure Mo. does.
     
  12. Accidental Trucker

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    Some states, like Idaho and Oregon, require an additional "extended weight" permit / registrations, besides the higher IRP registration weight.
     
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