Trucks: Dashboard and range of view

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Marcus Neidert, Feb 15, 2021.

  1. Marcus Neidert

    Marcus Neidert Bobtail Member

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    We will definitely look into it as a benchmarking comparison! Thanks for the advice!
     
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  3. Marcus Neidert

    Marcus Neidert Bobtail Member

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    This is great information, previous projects have focused on the swedish market, but we do realise that Volvo is a super-international business and input like this is amazing!

    Just as you mentioned, the steering wheel covering vision of the different functions and regulators such as knobs or buttons. The current mindset is that we want to decrease physical representation of functions that aren't used frequently. Did you take a swing at the survey? Your answers would be invaluable!

    Cheers once again, Marcus
     
  4. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    While I'm not opposed to a modern dash, there's something to be said for the older style dashes, and that is that they are much closer to your normal field of vision. Some of these new trucks the gauges are so low that a glance down moves the road quite far into peripheral vision rather than out of focus at the edge of your field of view. And that's a huge difference that effects reaction times. Sure the visibility is nice, but at what cost?
     
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  5. Colt6920

    Colt6920 Light Load Member

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    The most "visible" dash I've ever seen was on a school bus. Don't remember the model, anyways it was running as a parking lot shuttle for an event, I was sitting right behind the front passenger doors and noticed that the dash was literally just tall enough for the gauges, which were next to the steering column. Like the gauge cluster was to the right of the steering wheel.
    Edit: Did some Googling, looks like it was a Thomas Saf T Liner. Dash looks like this:
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  6. Six9GS

    Six9GS Road Train Member

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    I drive a 2019 VNL760 for over a year. Here's my ideas (BTW, I LOVE LOVE LOVE VOLVOS!!!!).
    1. In the upper left hand corner of the dash is the turbo boost gage, in the upper right corner is the applied brake pressure gage. When I tilt the steering wheel to where it is comfortable for me, the steering wheel obstructs the view of these 2 gages. Fortunately, I don't consider them super important, so being unable to monitor them without effort is ok with me. But, seems kind of wasted to have gages in places that is so easy to get blocked from your view.
    2. My Volvo does not have an air gage on the suspension. Unsure if this is normal and that gage isn't available, or if it is just my specific model missing that gage, but it would be nice to have that gage available.
    3. To dim or brighten the center digital panel, the controls on the right hand side of the steering wheel must be utilized, which is just fine. But, you have to do go to a menu, select an option and then go to a submenu before your can get to the brightness control. I would very much like to see that brightness control not require going to a separate submenu, having to scroll down the the bottom option before actually getting to that control. I adjust that control regularly when changing from night and day driving. A control like this that is used frequently, it shouldn't be buried in a submenu.
    4. The center digital display has 4 separate customizable areas where the driver can select which gage or trip meter is displayed. I REALLY REALLY like that and would like having even more customizable display spaces and more actual display options.
    OK, those are my suggestions and feedback in a nutshell. I'll head over now to the survey and take that. But, often surveys of this kind do not allow for the necessary feedback. So, though I'd add it here.

    OK, survey taken. Hope it helps. Love my Volvo and enjoy seeing new and better models. I am not like many truckers that prefer it all remain old school.
     
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  7. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Your first question gives options for
    0-3 years
    9-20 years
    21+ years

    You seem to be chopping out 3-9 year drivers, this is hopefully a simple oversight, but its also not showing me a whole lot of confidence in your ability to think through simple tasks.

    The design adage "kiss" is key, (keep it simple stupid) is probably best here. Not necessarily that drivers are dumb, but more that things kept simple are harder to mess up.

    That said, things i want in a dash

    1. No having reaching to hit any neccessary buttons, thats literally all of them. If i have to reach in a way that distorts my view of the road, thats bad.
    2. For everything, a physical switch. Do NOT put your headlight switch in the touchscreen. This includes the radio, volume needs to be a dial or switch. Under no circumstances should your heater controls not at least be manual at point of use, digitize it after user input if you must, but dont make the eyes leave the road (Tangentially related, include an option to dim the headlights instead of flashing your brights)
    3. Keep your steering wheel design in mind if you put any instrument gauges behind it, i was in a truck that the bulky smart steering wheel (with broken controls within 2 years) actually obstructed half of the speedometer and tachometer. And every other gauge i wanted to look at i had to move my head around right or left to see. Dumb design.

    4. Dash lights need to be able to go all the way to 0.
    Keep blue or white lights incandescent if they must be there, blue leds especially draw the eye and mess with vision in the cab. I like the blue color, but orange or red (even leds) seem to be better for not messing with low light night driving.

    5. Do NOT put traction control or suspension dump switches right next to the headlights/marker light switches. Thats a recipe for disaster.
    6. Not strictly about the instrument panel, but the horn shouldnt be too easy to activate. Ive driven cars that i cut the horn switch on because it was so touchy just hitting a bump or running my hand over the center of the steering wheel activated it.
     
  8. homeskillet

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    The Volvo Truck "air horn" lacks an authoritative tone. I would like to see that changed.
     
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    Yes, but the placement of the air horn on the steering wheel instead of a wire in the upper left was a well though out concept.

    I do not want to hunt for the air horn, I just want to press in the center.
     
  10. Marcus Neidert

    Marcus Neidert Bobtail Member

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    Thanks a lot for the input and your answers to the survey! Your input really is invaluable and it's gonna be a lot of fun using it for the designing phase!

    Cheers!
     
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  11. Marcus Neidert

    Marcus Neidert Bobtail Member

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    Just as you said, it was a simple oversight. I suppose the span from 3-9 years got lost in translation from the swedish survey. :(

    We do want to KISS, but to do that we believe that it is important to understand as much as possible about the subject. Most of us do not have a background with vehicles in general, even less with trucks.

    TL;DR: The survey is a way for us to gain a lot of information, to then take with us as we step back for a broader view of the design process!

    Also, many thanks for the high resolution respons, it is much appreciated and valuable!

    Cheers!
     
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