Catch-22?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Ryu_Gabriev, Mar 4, 2021.

  1. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You left out some info here. Three "incidents"? What happened each time? Damage done? Hitting curb and denting a rim isn't the same as cutting that same corner too close and taking out a light pole.
     
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  3. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    390.5 defines an accident as
    Accident means—
    (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2) of this definition, an occurrence involving a commercial motor vehicle operating on a highway in interstate or intrastate commerce which results in:
    (i) A fatality;
    (ii) Bodily injury to a person who, as a result of the injury, immediately receives medical treatment away from the scene of the accident; or
    (iii) One or more motor vehicles incurring disabling damage as a result of the accident, requiring the motor vehicle(s) to be transported away from the scene by a tow truck or other motor vehicle.
    (2) The term accident does not include:
    (i) An occurrence involving only boarding and alighting from a stationary motor vehicle; or
    (ii) An occurrence involving only the loading or unloading of cargo.


    If any of the above elements of an accident are present the carrier MUST add this accident to their accident register as it is DOT recordable.

    Carriers basically breakdown an accident that contains NONE of the above elements into accidents and incidents. Some carriers have to option to handle some of these internally only.

    OP you reported as having 3 of these. You are still hirable, but you MUST get your head in this job and develop the ability to think critically in bad situations.
     
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  4. Ryu_Gabriev

    Ryu_Gabriev Bobtail Member

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    First incident, my GPS glitches out and shifted my path down a dirt road. I got stuck right near the end in some sand that made up the road at the time. First time out of state.
    Second incident, was trying to maneuver my trailer through a super tight parking lot full of cars to unload at a dollar general store. Got stuck at a turn that looked straight until you were too far in to back out normally. Almost made it out but crumpled the side panel of one of the parked cars.
    Third, was me trying to deliver to this place by a certain time in the afternoon and along the way one of the steer tires started leaking. Was almost flat by the time I got to the destination. Due to time zone changes I didn't make it on time either so I had to get somewhere safe for new instructions. The only way out was a super tight turn that had trees in the worst places possible. In trying to avoid them, the deflated steer tire popped off of the rim.
     
  5. Ryu_Gabriev

    Ryu_Gabriev Bobtail Member

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    I never made the same mistake twice, and I'm good for the 95% of the run where the truck is moving on freeway and streets. It's always when the truck's going below 5 mph
     
  6. 201

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    Actually, my union job considered hitting a curb and bending a rim, was a chargeable offense. Some here mentioned "small 1099 companies on CL", or "2nd chance companies"( that one is really disturbing) IDK, man, I guess it's not 1987 anymore,,,there's nothing here that is really bad, but it doesn't matter today, take down a pole, run into a bunch of 4 wheelers, what's the difference,,,to them?:dontknow:
     
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  7. Lunatic Fringe

    Lunatic Fringe Medium Load Member

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    The Dollar Store account is a terrible choice for new drivers. They don’t publish statistics, but I’ll bet more drivers leave the industry than finish their first year there. If that account were worth the hassle don’t you think they would be able to hire experienced drivers instead of preying on new ones?

    So you followed your gps where you shouldn’t have, didn’t watch your tail while turning in a parking lot and drove on a flat with a trailer? Pretty standard stuff for an inexperienced driver. It didn’t help being in panic mode over being late.

    Truth is there are companies that will still hire you. They don’t pay that well and will probably want to re-train you. You have to ask yourself how bad you want to be a driver.
     
  8. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

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    2 of them are B.S. & don’t matter. You have one incident that counts.

    Getting stuck is not a accident no matter what the company may say. As long as you didn’t cause property damage to anyone’s property (like a farmer’s field) that is.

    The flat steer tire is what it is. I hope that going forward you don’t mess with steer tires. If it’s low, it mine as well be flat. Park the truck & call for road service. They’re trying to peg you for the tire popping off the rim, what would have happened had it deflated at speed? Same darn thing!

    tearing up a car is an “accident” and is the one problem you have. Don’t beat yourself up...keep your head high & push on. My 1st couple years were on a bumpy road, now i’m almost 20yrs in. We all have to learn somehow.

    hopefully @Chinatown can help you out with some suggestions.
     
  9. Frank Speak

    Frank Speak Road Train Member

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    There are plenty of second chance companies out there. Carolina Transport (I think that’s their name) comes to mind. They’ll hire anybody with a pulse. Or, you could go dump trucking or logging company driver for awhile.
     
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  10. silverspur

    silverspur Road Train Member

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    Most companies keep "incidents" in house. BTW, what were the incidents?
     
  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Do not let your CDL lapse. All you have to do to maintain it is submit a new self-certification that your current CDL use doesn't require a current medical exam. It costs nothing.
     
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