Usa Versus Canada

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Dec 28, 2006.

  1. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Don't forget the Canadians are changing their regulations and if you drive to Canada you will need to change your way of logging[​IMG] as of 1-1-07

    HAPPY NEW YEAR:occasion7:

    If you have any questions please ask me and I will try to help ya :happy3: "As the Regs go around"
     
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  3. Freightshaker

    Freightshaker Bobtail Member

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    New Canadian Regs:

    --14 hours on duty in 24 hours.

    --13 Hours driving per work shift.

    --You can drive an extra 2 hours in bad weather.

    --Minimum 8 hours off duty per work shift. Sleeper birth time can no longer be split.

    --You can work 70 hours in 7 days or 120 hours in 14 days.

    --Mandatory 24 hours off-duty every 14 days.
     
  4. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    If you are going into Canada for a day or two or three to deliver and get back out can't you log on the US laws and still be within Canada regs so you don't have to learn a whole bunch of more confusing nonsense?????????????
     
  5. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Yes all true: But you need a 10 hour break not 8. Their 10 hour break is different than USA.
    Once you start your shift and by the time you end your shift you must have an 8 hour break and a 2 hour break. The 2 hour break can be in increments of 30 minutes. So I can take 4 30 minute breaks through out the day or I can take 2 1 hour break etc. As long as there is a total of 10 hours in that shift time.
    You can split break still: They have broken it down to Team drivers and solo drivers split. Crazy as that is????
    Then you have the daily stuff you need to put on your logs as well! I don't have the list here at the time and I lost my dog today so I really am not in the mood to think to hard to make sure I am right :(
    I now know what the phrase "you look like you lost your dog" means
     
  6. DanJ

    DanJ Light Load Member

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    So far as I know, the 2 hour extra driving thing is an emergency exception, and you have to deduct that from your next day's availability.

    The reset here is 36 hours, not 34. And there is something about a 50km allowance each way where you can bobtail to/from work outside your duty hours.

    Brickman, I beleive if you follow the US laws here for a few days, you won't have any issue. The only issue a US driver might have is if they come here near the end of their week, and take their reset here. I would say that because you are in Canada, you have to take the 36 hours off. It's only 2 extra hours, but I would think after sitting around that long, the 2 extra hours will seem extra long. I'm not sure how the US officials would deal with a US based driver who came to Canada for a few days, and ran the 13 hour driving day (or even stayed here and did a 70 hour/7 day week), then went home.

    My (perhaps mistaken) impression also, is that it looks like it's easier to "game" the US system. Theoretically, you could drive 14 hours in a 24 hour period in the US (drive 11, take 10 off, drive 3 more), at least for a few days. How you log fuelling time would be an issue I suppose LOL. Whereas here, you drive 13, take off 10, you still can't move in that extra hour.
     
  7. Cerberus101

    Cerberus101 Heavy Load Member

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    U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A oh sorry having a proud american moment.
     
  8. Trooper: "Can I see your logbook, please."

    Driver: "Don't have one."

    Trooper: "Why?"

    Driver: " 'Cause I'm not hauling logs."
     
  9. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Log Auditor: "Where was your log book to show DOT?"

    Driver: "UMM I didn't fill it out"

    Log Auditor: "You are on final warning"

    Driver: "Ok I will keep it current from now on, I will start hauling logs again"

    l.o.l. that is about how that one works! funny! AS THE LOGS :happy3:
     
  10. mlajoie

    mlajoie Bobtail Member

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    Not to bring a dead post alive again or anything but I am a Canadian driver and just to clear a few things up on our cycles. The first cycle which is the 70/7 rule you need to have 36 hours off to reset. The 120/14 cycle is a little different. If you are on that cycle it is required that you take a 24 hour break at 70 hours and then once you've reached the 120 hours in order to reset you need to have 72 consecutive hours off. I hope this has cleared up some questions for a lot of American Drivers entering Canada. These new rules went into effect 01/01/2007.
     
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