Dealership Sold me a Truck with No Original Title

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  1. wore out

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    Yes you have 45 days and wait till day 44 to make sure it’s in order.....it’s 100 percent on you. This is exactly why truckin is a race to the bottom.....

    edit: I’m not saying they should not refund your money, but I am saying the extra money you put in it and being in this bind at day 45 is on you. You had 44 others to ensure things were in order.

    I’m sure they got the truck with a lien on it. Whether the lien holder is slow or it’s not satisfied is hard to say. I also know a lost title comes exactly like it was last printed. So the former owner and lien holder will have to sign it. Though the dealer may have a power of attorney form for the previous owner.
     
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  3. roundhouse

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    I’d go back to where you got the truck and get your money back ASAP,
    The truck is either stolen or has a large loan against it.
    do not let them take possession of the truck until you get a wire transfer back into your account and you’ve moved the money into a different account so they can’t snatch it back.

    contact whatever department in your state that regulates used vehicle dealerships, and file a fraud case .
    And start looking for another truck
     
  4. baha

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    The dealer should have a title person that works in a office that handles things like this, go back to the dealer and find that person and get it worked out the dealer that they got it from is maybe waiting for title to come back to them so they can send it to the dealer you got it from, but their title person is the only one who can tell you what's going on with paper work with your truck title??
     
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  5. Long FLD

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    Take the truck back and get a refund. Think of the $2k you’re giving up as a lesson to do things right when you buy a truck.
     
  6. MambaTrucking

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    Actually it was a repossession that they purchased from a finance company. So yea that is basically what my lawyer stated.
     
  7. clausland

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    Lotta fraud out there, using equipment as collateral to secure other peoples money (loans) is real common. You gotta be vigilant and do your homework. Salesman save your BS, this is the way I view it:

    No original title in hand= No Sale
    "Duplicate" or "Certified Copy" title of recent issue on a piece of late model equipment= No Sale.
    Don't worry, I'll have it next week= No Sale
    Bank payoff note as "proof", but no original title= No Sale

    Even if you are able to get a title in your name, based on submission of a duplicate, if the seller defaults, repo man comes a lookin for the current location of the equipment. Good luck fightin that in court, plus there's a good chance there's a couple more folks that were also burned standing in that line too...
     
  8. baha

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    I always take the title that the dealer is saying goes with the truck I am getting ready to sign for out to truck and compare it with the door and both frame num. to the title I have in my hand, if all matches I ck. that all sig. are the same on back and ft. also being sure middle name if sign and printed on back of tittle then when I take it my home town tag office they like what they see and I get tittle back in a few weeks!
     
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  9. CrappieJunkie

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    Driver, none of us are lawyers or experts on the lqws in your state, so everything here is speculation.

    Contact OOIDA, they can set you up with an attorney in the state you bought it in. Most attorneys have a free inital consult. See what they say to do. In a lot of states it is illegal to sell a vehicle without a title.

    You might be out the extra money you put in, if you turn it in. If you get a lawyer they might be able to help you recover the money you spent on the truck, plus what you put out and lost wages. Etc. Good luck.
     
  10. Allow Me.

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    Buying trucks from an auction is sometimes a problem also. You pay for the truck with a promise they will send you the title later. And you don't know the history.
     
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  11. Lazer

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    The financial company that repo’d the truck should have the original title. It would have their name on it as lein holder. Contact someone higher up in your state DMV, as find out if you can get another set of ‘temp tags’ for that truck. Explain the circumstances, have somebody from the dealership, and the Finance company do the same on your behalf. Contact your State Senator, and your Assembly representative, explain your situation, you would be surprised what strings those people can pull.
     
  12. wore out

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    Happens everyday. They trade for one with an existing lien, get a power of attorney on the registered owner so they can sign it in his place when they satisfy the lien and it’s sent to them.



    So let’s just play along your right.......they gave him a copy of it which is very customary and not in any form a fraudulent document. Thing is he either didn’t know it was a copy or thought a copy was good enough. Again on him. Do your homework and don’t take a sellers word end of discussion. If you don’t know or are uninformed you are sure to get burned. It’s your responsibility to take care of yourself no one elses
     
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