98 pete 3406e engine fan wont turn on for temperature

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  1. Junk Yard Dogg

    Junk Yard Dogg Bobtail Member

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    Does your engine fan come on if you flip the dash switch?
     
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  3. Junk Yard Dogg

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    Does your engine fan come on if you flip your switch on the dash?
     
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  5. MechaniKing

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    I have a 3406E 5EK . The fan will not turn on with the manual switch or when the temperature gets high. The fan solenoid engages with the key on and the fan will be on. As soon as you start the engine the fan solenoid shuts off. The relays and fuses behind the dash are good. Everything functions as normal until you actually start the engine. Any help would be great.
     
  6. Junk Yard Dogg

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    Have you checked for power at fan solenoid?
     
  7. MechaniKing

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    There is power at the air solenoid with the key switch on. The solenoid shuts off approximately 1 second after the engine is started. The manual override switch does not engage the solenoid either. I checked with Cat ET, it shows the same results. Shows the fan on with the key switch on and it shows the fan off as soon as the engine is started.
     
  8. Junk Yard Dogg

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    its possible you have 2 different issues, if the solenoid is engaged at startup that tells me signal from the ecm is good. Have you tested for power at the manual override switch coming in and going out? As for fan not coming on at high temp, how hot is it getting? Does the warning light come on, is it possible your temp sender is no good, have you confirmed temp reading with Cat ET?
     
  9. MechaniKing

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    I have not confirmed the high temperature with ET while operating the truck. The engine warning lights came on at higher temperature with longer pulls. For example ET would show 180 degrees and the gauge would show 150. The manual override has power until the engine starts. One second after the engine is started, you can hear the engine fan relay click off and the switch loses power.
    I also noticed the wire that powers the solenoid is labeled 220, there is a wire zip tied to the harness by the thermostat housing that is labeled 220. There are two sensors on the thermostat housing and each sensor has a single wire to it. One goes to the gauge and the other goes to the ecm I’m assuming.
     
  10. Junk Yard Dogg

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    The 2 single wire sensors on the front of the thermostat housing are a signal stat for temp gauge and the other is a alarm stat for the warning light and buzzer for over temp. There is a 3 wire sensor on the top of the thermostat housing that gives the temp signal to the ecm and that how the engine fan comes on for engine temp. That is one power source for fan solenoid, so when you hear the fan solenoid function when you turn the key that’s powered by the ecm start up. The manual override is a second source for the fan solenoid to get power. You need to check for power to the switch (key on) to see if you have power to the switch and you need to check to see power out of the switch to see if the switch is bad.
     
  11. MechaniKing

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    Thank you for the replies, it’s very appreciated. I saw there was a sensor with a single wire on the upper portion of the thermostat housing and a sensor on the side of the thermostat housing with a single wire. I never noticed any other sensors with multiple wires, but I will have to do some more looking. I did verify with the key on there is power to the engine fan switch and power out of the switch. The part that I find odd is that the power is lost to the switch, fuse, and relay as soon as the engine is started. Could I be missing a switch in the air conditioning system that is causing the malfunction? Or possibly a bad wire coming out of the ecm harness?
     
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