Always visually check this!!!

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  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    When you park, set the trailer brakes then move the tractor forward a bit. The pressure on the jaws means they can't be released.
     
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  3. HoneyBadger67

    HoneyBadger67 Road Train Member

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    If I think I'm in a sketchy area, I'll set trailer and put forward pressure on pin before setting tractor.
     
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  4. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    I do the same.
     
  5. Lennythedriver

    Lennythedriver Road Train Member

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    Just this past week I saw two dropped trailers in intersections. So those drivers were able to drive some distance before it slid out underneath. My guess is the king pen wasn’t locked in the weight of the trailer on the fifth wheel was enough to pull it along for a ways anyhow.
     
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  6. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    A couple of weeks ago......
    Attempting to enter hwy 49 north bound, Magee, Ms from the Loves.

    Like some of you, I wondered if he wasn't taking his 30 in the fuel island. He made it out of the parking lot, out the driveway, to the red light. I figure he hit the fuel at the light to head north... and that's when it slid off. IMHO, he was moving at least fast enough that the landing gear couldn't take the weight moving forward at that speed & folded under.

    To compound his bad luck, this was a refer. I suspect they gave away all that product. I cant be sure but there was liquid on the ground & they were throwing down oil dry, so I suspect he ruptured the refer fuel tank & the refer eventually quit. Therefore having to give away all that product.

    If you do stupid things..... expect stupid results.
    Disrespectful people cause other disrespectful people to do disrespectful things.

    Rule #1: Don't be disrespectful to others
    Rule #2: If you do, Always check your 5th wheel connection.

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  7. MTN Boomer

    MTN Boomer Road Train Member

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    I have had the jaws release, the 5 th wheel plate was bent. Took it off , put a little heat and a big hammer, good as new.
     
  8. JSanborn103

    JSanborn103 Medium Load Member

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    Is the tug test really not enough? I never got out and looked at the jaws. I was with a guy who had been driving for years and he didn’t know about the tug test when we hooked up to a trailer. I had to show him how to do it
     
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  9. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    No it's not. I've twice now tug tested, but when I looked the kingpin wasn't seated in. Next time look at the kingpin. Notice that there is a recessed area? If the jaws catch the thicker part under that collar it will pass the tug test but will pop out after a couple of turns or rough road.
     
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  10. WesternPlains

    WesternPlains Road Train Member

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    Agree on pressure against the fifth wheel.
    Yet... can’t set trailer brakes in winter cold. So back to checking.
    Ive even had an idiot bend my license plate up while I was inside. Punks will do anything to destroy.
     
  11. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    While it typically doesn't happen at Truckstops, sometimes when you have an uncoupling it's not always caused by someone pulling the pin! Sometimes it's caused by incorrectly backing under a trailer! Also sometimes the 5th wheel is broken! If that kingpin is not sitting in that 5th wheel correctly and then the rig is turned sharply the locking jaw can get into a bind and it can release the kingpin. Has already been said, GOAL after backing under and make sure you did it correctly. Some of you new drivers might not have seen this happen! I have several times and it almost happened to me at the Hershey warehouse near St Louis. I got complacent then in a hurry I failed to pay close enough attention to my coupling. I had to make a sharp almost 180 turn and thankfully was watching when my trailer made a lateral move and I knew it was loose. I was able to stop and lower the landing gear and the yard man helped me get it up and this time I did it right. Another problem is drivers that hit those kingpins with so much force they push the trailer back 10 feet when backing under! Easy does it! There are tons of videos on this subject! As to what the OP is reporting you never know when moron will happen!
     
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