Logging Question - "Rollback Hours"?

Because they are not being paid by the hours, but by the mile; a slow clock is a faster mile.

 

Many drivers will run 100 hours a week, but only log 70. That isn't exageratting either.

But yeah now they should not worry about saving hours 1) It can be costly with DOT fines. 2) They take a 34 hour break and they can be on the road again.

Soon they will have to get used to it because DOT will require companies to use the on board computers. Well at least the established companies, maybe not the sma ller one's.
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I figured you probably did, but from your other post, it sounded like you was asking why they do it.

 

As I said before, my son is out trucking on his first "out alone" period.

I have a question about him getting rest, as I want to make sure he is doing this right.

Here is the question:

He has been on duty the following hours per day since his last 34 hour reset...8/11.75/8.5/11.5/10.5 for a total of 50.25 on duty hours in 5 days.

The way he sees it, he can be on duty for 14 hours today leaving a total of 5 3/4 on duty hours the following day and then he will HAVE to do a 34 hour reset. Is this correct?

Another question: He keeps telling me of a way to "roll-back" hours to make back some of the 70 hours. I am not familar with the whole "roll-back" thing, can someone explain it?

 

Okay, a 34 hour reset is not a mandatory step. You can use it, and it will return the hour counter to zero. 34 hours was selected because it is assumed that in that period of time you would have gotten 2 full periods of sleep.

Before 1 Jan 04, there was no such provision. What you did was go back into your logbook and calculate the amount of hours you had worked in the previous 7 days. If the total number was under 70, then you had that amount of time remaining. If you had run for 62 hours in that period, then you had 8 hours available before hitting the 70 hour window. At that point you had to stop and take a break, but the next day you could repeat the procedure, again taking advantage of the fact that some hours had dropped off of the 70 hour accumulation. And as long as this is done, you can run for as long as you want, just with the built in limit of not being able to work more hours than what you will be able to take off.

Once in a while I will stay busy enough on a weekend that I cannot get in a 34 reset, and will maintain my logbook this way, which is perfectly legal. From the sounds of it, your son must have been taught by someone who knows what he is doing, because the figuring of hours is becoming a lost art not passed on properly to new drivers.

 

i'll be back, i am wondering why he isn't driving more hours each day.......

 

Thanks for all of the responses.

To answer Prodriver, I realize that he can drive 11 hours a day within a 14 hour window....why do you wonder why he isn't doing more? If he did 5 14 on-duty hour days in a row, a 34 hour restart would be mandatory, right?

 

No. a 34 is never mandatory, in fact it is optional at the company's discretion. All that would happen at the end of 5-14 hour days is that the driver would not be able to perform any more work until the clock had turned over another day and he had time that he could take off the books.

If he had no time available to subtract, then he would have to sit until time became available, or 34 hours had elapsed.

The 34 hour reset rule is strictly an optional thing.

 

Yes a restart would be mandatory,