Random load questions.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by kenkenni, Jan 1, 2010.

  1. kenkenni

    kenkenni Light Load Member

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    Hey guys hope everyone is doing well. Iam still studying for my CDL permit
    and while reading the Combinations section a couple questions came to
    mind. I know drop and hook means just what its name implies but I would
    like to know if any of you have a say so on how the trailer is loaded before
    you pull it? I mean you can't have too much on the steers, you want to keep
    the load as close to the ground as possible, and heavy freight needs to be properly balanced, so what do you do? If you can't see how it is loaded
    than what happens when you get to the scale and you are overweight?
    Who will pay the fine if you pick up a sealed trailer like that you or the company? These are the questions I just wanted to throw out there.
    As far as trucking company updates I have somewhat dwindled my choices
    to these three at the moment. Roehl, Stevens, or Prime. Trying to weigh
    the benefits now. Stevens wants too long of a commitement to pay back
    schooling which is more expensive than any of the other company paid
    programs. Good training. But when you drive solo you can't take the truck
    home. Whats up with that? Roehl has good training and more affordable.
    Prime has excellent training, affordable, but that 4-6 months with a trainer is just not sitting well with me. I believe with a good trainer one
    should be able to learn everything there is to know in about a two-month
    period IMHO. But still they are one of the better options. Hope everyone
    is having a good New Year. Now lets see if freight and wages pick up this
    year.
     
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  3. kenkenni

    kenkenni Light Load Member

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    Why is my paragraphing all jacked up. What is the secret button I'm missing
    to line things up correctly. I know I didn't type it that way. :biggrin_25524:
     
  4. Northernblue

    Northernblue Light Load Member

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  5. Rollover the Original

    Rollover the Original Road Train Member

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    When I pick up a pre loaded and sealed trailer the first thing I do is look at the weight on the BOL. then I look at my air gauge on the dash. (not all trucks have this) If things look good and I slide the tandems to where I believe they should be and get back in the seat and the air gauge is still good I head to the nearest scale! If things are good I'm out of there!

    NOW, there is a situation where you load or pick up and the route you have to go there is a scale about a mile or so from you. This is a judgment call! You can't scale and the nearest scale is 20 miles in the opposite direction from you then do what you have to do. Message the company for advice. Call the scale house (yes they are listed!) and explain to them where you are loading and believe it or not you will not be the first one to cross them after loading and they just might scale you so you CAN be legal. Stranger things have been known to happen!

    Or you can figure out how to go around said scale or wait for them to "maybe" close for the day/night. Just remember if you ARE over weight when you get to the next pay scale then you have to return!

    I just hope your company will pay you the OOR miles!
    BUT if things are not good such as to heavy, axle weight not good, I send in a message and request to go back (actually I tell them I'm going back but I have a ton of whiskers in this business!) and get it reloaded even if they are closed. I've learned that if dispatch tells you to go with an overloaded trailer and "we'll pay the fines" not to believe it! Even if it on Qual Comm! I've gotten bent on overweight fines and I'm in this to make money not give it to DOT! My last 2 companies had no problem with me reloading as they didn't want the DOT looking at them any more than nessicary! I also do NOT run OOR for someone who isn't going to pay me to run behind scales. Again I'm not working for free and extra OOR miles due to an overweight trailer just isn't going to happen! Yes in my young and dumb years when a company actually would throw an extra $20 - $50 at you for running the load illegal, yeah, I'll do it, But these day. Ain't going to happen! Like in the past 20 years! LOL! And especially with CSA2010 now in effect if I ever get medically released back to driving!
     
  6. kenkenni

    kenkenni Light Load Member

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    You bring up another interesting question. Tandems. What is the benefit
    to sliding the Tandems? How do you know when you need to? I guess I
    will eventually study this in the Combinations section of the CDL manual,
    but haven't gotten that far. The image you posted helps a lot in properly
    balancing a loaded trailer. Thanks for that.
     
  7. rockee

    rockee Road Train Member

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    The benefit of being able to slide your tandems is you can adjust your weight. If your tandems are over then you can slide them to the rear and that will move some of your loaded weight forward. Just like a teeter totter. You know when you need to (basically) by scaling your truck and trailer and if you are overweight you try to adjust it to make it legal
     
  8. oilfieldtrash

    oilfieldtrash Light Load Member

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    Pretty slick diagrams there Northernblue. I took me a minute or two just to figure out what all those little boxes were. I don't pull a box these days. Good info just the same.
     
  9. Northernblue

    Northernblue Light Load Member

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    Thanks but I cant take the credit. I got that from somebody else in this forum. I cant remember who but I saved it as I thought it was good stuff
     
  10. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You will be on your own when picking up pre-loaded trailers, but not to worry. Use your common sense and you will get more knowledgable as you go. Every mistake made is a lesson learned. One piece of advice, don't believe the weight on the BOL. And, if in doubt, weight it! BOL weight does not include pallet weight (50 lbs each) 22 pallets,1100 lbs. ALWAYS monitor the loading when possible. The forklift jocks aren't truck drivers, they want to load you and get you out of their hair. They don't understand weight limits and scale cops and overweight tickets and hassles etc. And you say 2 months is enough time to "learn everything" in training. Don't believe it, that's barely enough to get your feet wet. Good luck.
     
    Northernblue Thanks this.
  11. REDD

    REDD The Legend

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    Pull a flatbed & you won't have to worry about how it is loaded!
     
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