Hi I just bought a pete 359 with a rebuilt ntc 400 in it with around 200.000 miles.. Excellent oil press, 20 at idle and 40 to 50 running down the road.. Smokes blue at start up and while idling, but does clear up after 10 miles or so.. Any ideas , I ws told all cummins do this, and was also told they should not.. Just looking for some other comments.. Thanks
Cummins NTC 400 Blue Smoke
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check the oil level and see if it is using any and how much for starters.
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I had one that did the same. It had lots of miles on it. When you first started it or, after long periods of idleing it would smoke blue smoke for a short while. The truck used very little oil. One and A half gallons of oil use between 15,000 mile services.
Throttle it up to 1000rpms while idleing. It seemed to help some. Keep an eye on your oil use. Hopefully,you do not have a problem.jtrnr1951 Thanks this. -
It's normal mine does it until it warms up........but monitor it....call Pete over at PP he would be able to tell ya
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This is normal on all NTC as is a fixed timing engine. Timing of injectors is set retarded so it runs clean and plenty of power under load but the drawback is smoke at idle and cold start. Cam timing could be changed to cure this but also loose power. STC and Electronic engines fixed this problem.
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thanks. only 4000 miles since oil change, and no drop in oil level yet
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For education for me, a couple other questions.. I am building this truck to a show truck, and it will not be driven in winter.. But how long should I plug the block heater in before I start it if I have to? 2nd , its a big cam 3, what are the differences, if any , between the 1 ,2 , and 3 engines?
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Four of our rigs have the NTC400 in them. They all smoke on a cold startup until they get close to operating temperature.
It's funny because we actually have an old timer with the 350 in it and it doesn't show a puff of smoke during a cold startup. -
ntc 400s were a bit smokey but it should clear up at about 120 degrees you may need a valve set intake recession is a known issue . the older ntc fired cleaner because of more advanced timing and higher compression ratio. If the truck isn't going to pull hard maybe you can find a cummins guy to tweek the timing a bit to clean it up. Don't try to make it stay on the full mark. I.e. don't add oil until the add mark and when it wants it's second gallon change it. Last of the 359s keep it. Plug it in till the block feels warm prolly 6 hrs if it's cold
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My Detroit does the same in cold weather. Puffs the blues until engine get's to the operating range.
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