Does this scale ticket look right? Scale not functioning properly?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by TravR1, Dec 28, 2021.

  1. kylefitzy

    kylefitzy Road Train Member

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    Did you ever get a weight? I’d bet good money your over on your spread. Any time I have to load a uniform load past the front trailer axle, something heavy needs to be on the top deck.
    Id bet your
    Steers 10,880
    Drives 23,460
    Trailer 43,880
    Gross 78,220
     
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  3. TravR1

    TravR1 Road Train Member

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    If I was heavy I got away with it this time. Maybe the chicken house only saw my gross and let me go.

    I forgot to get another weigh this morning.

    Next heavy load will be better. I don't mind paying an extra 2.50 if it works out better and faster.
     
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  4. loudtom

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    You want your load to be as centered as you can between the kingpin and the center of the spread. I would have loaded the slab from the end on top of the step, then moved the two pieces on the lower deck back a little bit. If you can't get it perfectly centered, bias the weight slightly towards the spread, especially if you're close to max weight.
     
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  5. TravR1

    TravR1 Road Train Member

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    Makes sense, what you said.

    I know it doesn't mean anything, but the guy who loaded said it should be good like that.

    And me being new, it would be embarrassing if I said no, put that on the top step, then have to go back after weighing over and telling them nevermind, I was wrong. I assume since they load that stuff all day, they'd know a little better than me being new.

    I'll get a handle on it.

    Do flats weigh over often? When I pulled vans there would usually only be about 1 load out of 20 that needed to be reworked. And those were usually going to CA.
     
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  6. loudtom

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    I've had a few that loaded too much, but it's rare. I've got an air gauge for my drives and trailer spread that are a pretty good indicator of if I'm coming close. Since my trailer is a 48', I don't really split the spread anymore when I get a CAT scale unless it shows like 38k. If the load is consistent, like all pieces weigh around the same, the spread has always been within 1000lbs of each other. If your load is going to be a mix of heavy and light pieces, ask how much they weigh and place them strategically. In general, I start with the heavier stuff in the center and work outwards. I would never put anything heavy behind the spread on the tail. I've never hauled coils, but if I hauled something like that with a lot of weight focused on a smaller area, I would place them closer to the axles. Instead of dropping 40k on the very center of the trailer, I'd rather have 20k about 1/3 towards the drive axles, and the other 20k about 1/3 with maybe 1-2 feet extra towards the spread.
     
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  7. FordStreetBlues

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    Busted up scale for sure!
     
  8. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    Couple of things you may want to do, if you have not done so already.

    Scale for an empty weight. Full tanks, all the gear you use plus your personal stuff. Set your kingpin to the center of the drive axles. Keep that scale receipt. If you have any load gauges, you have a reasonable idea of your weight at that point.
    Next learn where the load center is on your trailer. If it has a coil pack on it, it may have a sticker on the main beam that says “Load single coil here” that should be the load center. If it doesn’t have one of the stickers, with a fixed California spread, it should be about 22 to 23 feet back from the king pin. It will depend on you king pin set. Knowing these things will make loading a lot easier. 49% of the load weight forward of the load center. Should be nice balance and ride good.
     
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  9. TravR1

    TravR1 Road Train Member

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    This weigh looks better.

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    I'm not sure what the certifiable means.

    Steers are over. But my 5th wheel is already all the way back. I think that will be fine.
     
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  10. ZVar

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    Are you sure your steers are over? A 12.5k axle is very common after all.
     
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  11. loudtom

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    It looks like that number under "certifiable" (23,780) is your drive axle weight, and the drive is really your front spread, trailer is your rear spread. If that's correct, it would make more sense for them to place that number in the drive spot and put the trailer spread weight next to each other in the trailer section.

    Do you have the trailer loaded all the way to the tail? It looks like you loaded some behind the rear axle.
     
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