Please help!!! Usa truck or prime inc.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by scorpiorias, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. scorpiorias

    scorpiorias Light Load Member

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    I am a recent graduate trying to decide on heading to Prime or USA. My dream employer was to go with Crete until they told me they won't be able to set me up for training anytime soon.

    I think Prime offers me a better opportunity, but what do I know?. Training pay will be $400 1st and 2nd weeks, $500 3rd and 4th weeks, and $600 for the 5th and 6th weeks. I get a monthly 250 tuition reimbursement up until I go solo or maximum of 6 months; which ever comes first. During training, I will be making .12cpm or 600 per week depending on which one is greater.

    The setback as far as prime is concerned is that 60,000 mile training requirement. Their aggressive sublease pressures on new drivers is also a too much ask for me.

    USA offers a 3weeks training and will start out at .26cpm after training. Prime is reefer while (USA will be dry van...I think). It also seems USA have better equipments and I don't see a lot of complaints about them on this forum. Both employers have the same orientation dates (11th Jan 2010) of which I am invited. I will like chose the company with the miles cos nothing drives me as crazy as being idle. I also dislike automatics but that's a different ball game.

    However, I will miss my FFE orientation today. Good or bad decision?

    A gentleman once said, "It's like a person is determined to commit suicide and asks "Should I hang myself or put a bullet through my head ? ""--RickG. Anyhow you look at it, it makes all the difference in the world when considering the Suicidal conditions we are living in these days. If you think I am full of it, take assisted suicide as an example.

    Newbies will be screwed anyways. As a mater of fact with a flaming power shaft and I don't expect otherwise; so why run out of Vaseline?? I might as well take my time so when it gets to me, I can actually enjoy it or at least pretend to. Moreover, I am not eliminating the possibility of a good encounter.:biggrin_25525: That's for-sure!!

    My point is that I have to start somewhere, all newbies have to. We are not looking to be coddled nor are we seeking sympathy. Some of us came a long way especially me after borrowing to pay that $5000 CDL training fees and driving between Philadelphia and Bethlehem PA daily for 6 weeks for that license.

    While reflecting on the brighter side of things; I personally thought It would be nice to have at least one person on the road, in the near future, re-living that majestic legacy the old timers of today will leave behind; and that one person could look back and tell someone...."I weathered the storm under the coats of the GREATESTs, things gets better". (if you know what I mean)

    Someone please help, it will be appreciated. [​IMG]
     
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  3. Layne

    Layne Bobtail Member

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    Props, man. We are so on the same page it's not real. That's awesome.

    I have no advice to give you, being that we're in the same boat, but I applaud your standing up for yourself and keeping a good positive attitude. We indeed are those who will be standing in decades, laughing at the naysayers and passing our trade forward. Best of luck to you!
     
  4. GoneButNotForgotten

    GoneButNotForgotten Heavy Load Member

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    Scorpiorias I will try to be as fair as I can, but alas I can only offer you my experience with one of the companies....USA Truck. I was one of the "one year wonders" that came from one of their CDL mills..specifically C-1. Their orientation was short and sweet, about 3 days. Of course you will have to pass a basic drivers skills test just like with any company. My trainer was excellent, absolutely no problems. He spent as much time mentoring me on the realities of this particular company and life on the road as he did on handling the rig. From him I was able to come up with a reasonable expectation of the company, which was basically them being a B- or C+ company. I had three tractors and three fleet managers during my tenure. In each case, none of which I had control over, it got better with each change. My last FM would hit the bottom line when he dealt with me, and my last tractor was just about brand new when I got it.
    Talking with most drivers, and my experience, your first several months are shorter runs, and as time passes, the miles get better. Most of the trainer companies are about the same, just small operational differences. Anytime I dealt with HQ in Van Buren, I felt the peple were honest with me. I may not have got the answer that I wanted, but they gave me an answer.
    I was as frustrated as anyone when freight was slow (and yes they are 99% dry van). I averaged about 2800 miles a week. But with any training company, the real money was made by the trainers. The solos somewhat support their hard running by repowering their loads once they have run all the good miles off! The terminals and maintenance are average at best.
    I left the company after my one year contract was completed to go back to work in an occupation (non-driving) that was similar to what I had worked prior. The main reason for leaving was to be back with my family, and the the plus was that the money was about the same. If I would have remained driving, I would have probably stayed with USA no more than 6 more monthes. The one plus is that USA did not pressure their drivers into any kind of L/P or O/O situation. They seemed to be pretty content with you being a company driver.
    In a nutshell, my experience with USA met my expectations. My expections were not set very high, and thus I was not disappointed.
    In the end, most of the training companies are pretty much the same.Good luck on your quest.
     
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  5. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    When you get in a truck and stay in at least 6 months then you can use the term "our trade " . Odds are though the place you'll be standing is the unemployment line unless some carrier terminates you on conditions that disqualify you for unemployment .
    Positive attitudes don't create jobs . Taking a positive attitude to a CDL mill just increases the surplus of unneeded applicants .
     
  6. JustSonny

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    Good morning Scorpiorias! If you have solid job offers from 2 companies, you are in an enviable position, considering the dearth of jobs out there.
    If you're really "up in the air" about which offer to take, let me make what sounds like a silly suggestion. Instead of being "up in the air", make your decision "up in the air". Told you it would be silly. It gets worse, but bear with me. I'm suggesting the old "coin toss" deal. Ready, heads is Prime-tails is USA Truck. Flip the coin, you'll know what you want while the coin is "up in the air". If, after the first toss, you're still not sure....do it again, and again, and again.... Keep track of the outcome of the tosses. Sooner or later, you're going to know what you really want. You're going to want the coin to land "heads up" or "tails up", depending upon what you, subconsciouly, know to be what's best for you. I'm just a wannabe, but I've been around for awhile.
     
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  7. luvmyhubby

    luvmyhubby Road Train Member

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    While a positive attitude may not sit well with some people at least it helps when the grind gets you down and you feel like giving up! There will be plenty of times you wonder WHY you took this career/lifestyle path, a good attitude in general with make it easier as a newbie....paying your "dues" does not have to be a depressing angry time for anyone.
     
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  8. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    But for growing numbers the only dues they pay are the cost of school . As more jobs are eliminated and more students graduate the odds against even getting hired increase .
     
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    Wicked Wizard Heavy Load Member

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    Go ahead and tell him how you really feel......
     
  10. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Read Layne's posts . He doesn't have a clue . He's ready to give up a job with $30,000 a year potential and wants to get into trucking to have a job to put his wife through school . :biggrin_25513:
    He has it all figured out . You can bet I'll keep an eye on his progress .
     
  11. badman976

    badman976 Light Load Member

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    i've never driven for either company but the reputation of both companies is they don't respect there drivers and getting hometime from prime is like pulling teeth................so i always hear.


    good luck.
     
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