2007 International 9400i
VIN: 7C532829
I've charged the A/C on this truck before, and everything went normal. About six months later, I popped my hood and noticed greenish oil blown onto the airbox. I thought it was antifreeze at first, but it smelled funny. I realized the A/C line going from the compressor to the condenser was leaking, and even bubbling out the leak.
So I replaced the line, vacuumed the system, and started charging.
Right off the bat the high side went to almost 300 psi. Truck wasn't wanting to take freon either. After the low side got to about 70 psi, the compressor clutch engaged. Low dropped to 40 psi, and high went up to 350 psi immediately. I figured this behavior would stop once I got more freon in the system.
As I'm doing this, and waiting for the clutch to engage each time, I'm noticing the high side slowly dropping, and the low side slowly increasing, and the low side pressure would be higher every time the clutch engaged until the low side was consistently over 110 psi, with the high side sitting at about 290 psi. This is with about 18 oz of freon in the system.
I let the can sit about five minutes, and when I checked it, the low side was pegged, and the high side was sitting at about 300 psi. I shut off the truck, bled off the can to a safer pressure and removed it. Then I bled off the low side to about 70 psi. After that, I could sit there and watch the low and high side mixing as the high side was slowly dropping, and the low side was increasing until they would equalize.
WTF is going on here?
Charging A/C problem
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by God prefers Diesels, Jan 9, 2022.
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While the clutch is engaged, the low reading is accurate. Fill it till it’s at least 35lbs. Give it time to run/cycle and adjust. Add more if needed. That’s all I’d do. As far as readings are concerned? It worked fine before right? High pressure switch ratings are all over the board for Trucks. Maybe the expansion valve( or orifice) is sticking or plugged, or dryers full. I wouldn’t jump to conclusions till it was filled with the proper charge (by weight) .Then see what you got going on.
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When the compressor kicks on, it only clicks on and clicks right back off. It won't stay on. At that point, I can shake the can and get it to take freon. (I can see it in the sight glass on the gauges) It will take freon for a few seconds, and then quit. Took me two hours of messing with it just to get 1.5 cans in there before I gave up.truckdriver31, singlescrewshaker and Rideandrepair Thank this. -
Sounds like there is air in the system (when the compressor cycles the air get hot and expands causing the high pressures) I would evacuate the system and be sure to do a deep vacuum then recharge it.
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If it immediately jumps to 300 some odd pounds, and a high, low side reading, with only 18 oz of refrigerant, you must have a restriction. You didn’t indicate whether you replaced dryer or not which you should have. Possibly the desiccant bag has ruptured dumping trash in the system. May be the cause of the line leak. Over pressure. I would evacuate system, remove dryer and check for desiccant inside the ports and lines. If so a full flush and replacement of expansion devices is in order.
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If you completely vacuumed it down and it held for about 20 minutes, there aren't any leaks. It should take vapor with ease if charging directly from the vacuumed state. I never even read the gauges. I just fill it up to the proper amount. There has been times where I had to charge from a liquid state instead of vapor but that was without vacuuming first. The system was so low it wouldn't accept vapor.
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I’ve had trouble with mine, taking a long time to fill. Can doesn’t always frost up. But does at least gets cold till empty. I’ve had some problems with the new safety cans. After I pierce it, needing to back off the needle to make them flow. We used to put the first two cans in upside down. It’ll split the compressor wide open if pressures too high. I’m not recommending it. I always keep the can higher than the port. Seems to help. Last time I filled mine, it took a few hours. I put the last can in using a short hose from a kit, while Driving it. I’ve done that a lot when I’m in a hurry.
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