Cummins n14 shuts off under hard pull

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  1. bowser

    bowser Bobtail Member

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    Hey everyone, I have a 2001 peterbilt 379 with a n14 celect plus. Sometimes While under a hard pull it will abruptly shut off, no sputtering just cuts off. I took it to Cummins and they ran the ecm and it showed high oil temp, they said it was the oil temp sensor so I had them replace it, they said the oil cooler could also be getting plugged. Next day I was driving going up a hill and it shuts off again. I get to the shoulder and it fired right back up no problems. I baby it to my delivery and then deadhead home. Bought a new oil cooler and oil thermostat. Ran about 2 weeks and started doing it again, same scenario, only under a hard pull. Got back home and put a new cam position sensor on and new fuel shut off solenoid. Still having the same problem. I tried pulling the flash codes but nothing comes up. I did have a problem with a dead fuel pedal, going down the road I’d hit the throttle and nothing, few seconds later it’s working just fine. I’m gonna try to make it to a peterbilt or Cummins today to see if there’s any codes. Can a throttle position sensor (peterbilt called it a potentiometer) cause the motor to shut off under a pull? I don’t know if it’s related but yesterday before it cut off on me I just happened to notice the boost gauge needle was wobbly and I’ve been watching it today and it moves smoothly not wobbly. Thanks guys
     
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Do you have a check engine or stop engine light coming on?

    I'd probably be looking more into the truck than the engine from your description. If the fault is that consistent, I would tap into fuel solenoid power, and ECM ignition feed and see if you're loosing power to either when the fault occurs.

    That way you can isolate very quickly whether you actually have a problem with the engine, or maybe your issue is actually caused by the truck.
     
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  4. MRMTRANS

    MRMTRANS Light Load Member

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    I've heard the fuse between the batteries and ECM can go bad to where current intermittently can be interrupted. If the truck has redundant backup fuse, then I imagine that isn't the problem. How about the crankshaft sensor?
     
  5. DUNE-T

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    I would change throttle position sensor and also check connections on the battery for the ecm wires
     
  6. bowser

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    No check engine lights or stop engine lights come on. I’ll check in what you said. Where is the ignition feed for the ecm?
     
  7. bowser

    bowser Bobtail Member

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    Tha
    thanks, I will check that fuse out and see. Probably just replace the fuse anyways
     
  8. bowser

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    I’m gonna replace the throttle sensor it’s just finding one. I’ll check the wires as well. Thank you
     
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  9. bowser

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    Just left the Cummins shop and it still has oil temp codes, nothing else. Could the new sensor be bad or more than likely a short in the wire or the connector?
     
  10. Big Road Skateboard

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    Did the last shop clear the codes? Are the codes active? Could they see when that fault last occurred? It has a code, it doesn't mean that code is active or even recent. If faults aren't cleared, they are stored.
     
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  11. bowser

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    I don’t know, he had a scan tool not the labtop. All it showed was oil temp code. I didn’t even think about that. I was in and out in 20 mins. I wish I would have thought about that. I’ll try to swing back by that Cummins after I get unloaded tomorrow morning.
     
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