Business plan

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  1. Resist

    Resist Bobtail Member

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    In my scenario, truck and trailer payment are eliminated. What do the numbers look like from here ? I’m guessing it’s better, but there are still areas where it could fail. I was doing rudimentary math and it looks like, if you own one truck and have a driver on it as an employee, the business owner will net profit of what is similar to what one would take home as a company driver. You pay all costs, you pay your driver, what’s left is equivalent to if you did all that labor yourself on a 60 hour work week. Ideally. In a perfect world.

    there are so many variables in the logistics chain which will ultimately affect the bottom line. I’m taking a hard look at it right now.
     
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  3. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    Hopefully @SteveScott will come around. He didn’t come into money but had money already from a previous business and did exactly what your hoping to do and in the same areas. It’s too bad because he sold his truck and reefer trailer a few months back that he’d bought new and taken great care of.

    I’d highly advise you buy a new truck and trailer and get your own authority. Drive it, dispatch it, and do all paperwork and billing for it until you learn all aspects of making it a success. Sure, you can buy used and pour a #### load of money into a hunk of junk during that year, but you’ll just end up needing to sell it and buy new anyway for when it’s time to expand and hire drivers. You’ll never recoup that money.

    It’s too bad @ScooterJones isn’t still around. That guy was meticulous with numbers and spreadsheets. Not sure if you can search his posts as well as Steve Scott. Scooter ran that Oregon area as well. Unfortunately for you, he also just sold his truck and trailer.

    I know you have a lot of driving experience but driving experience doesn’t make you money, business experience does in this case. Particularly, business experience in trucking! Don’t go buying 2, 3, or 4 trucks as you’ll just make all the same rookie mistakes only x amount of trucks you have and you’ll go broke. It also takes a long time to learn how to make the right hires and avoid the blood suckers. There are some real fine people out there that will truly help make your company, and a lot of bs’rs who will literally break your company.

    Good luck :)
     
  4. Resist

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    How would you advise getting an introduction to dispatching your own loads ? I’m interested in this. Also, let’s reverse engineer the situation. You want to clear 500k per year. How do you successfully manage that ? I would probably drive this too.
     
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  5. Resist

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    I’m almost wondering if it’s a good idea to lease onto a company with a truck paid off until I get a feel for the paperwork.
     
  6. SteveScott

    SteveScott Road Train Member

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    Sorry I'm late, just saw this.

    $100k isn't nearly enough to get into the business now after buying a good used truck and used trailer at much higher prices than last year, nor is it a good time to buy new unless you have at least $300k in the bank and can pay cash for new equipment plus getting an extended warranty on truck and trailer. When I bought my equipment new in October 2018, I paid $240k cash for a new T680 and a new Utility reefer with extended warranties. I was lucky and never had any down time for repairs and worked on average 4-5 days per week and home every weekend just running from CA up to OR and WA and back. I had 2 contract clients lined up before I bought my equipment which helped immensely. I paid $150 per month to park my equipment 4 miles from my house. Last year I retired in October and sold my equipment, and I netted about $180k after 9 months of working 4-5 days per week. Had I been willing to stay out a couple weeks at a time, that number would have been much higher. Without my contract clients, I would have netted half that because finding freight from the Pacific Northwest down to CA is very difficult unless you know a good broker that specializes in that region, or if you have your own clients needing regular loads covered heading south. Loads going north from CA are very easy to find and are paying extremely well right now.

    As somebody else mentioned, real estate might get you a better return on your investment. Prices are going through the roof for real estate because people with money have no place to invest that will earn a return because interest rates are so low, so they've turned to residential real estate and are driving the prices up for everybody.

    Sorry I've been absent from the boards. My mom passed away a couple weeks ago and I've been busy dealing with that and taking care of my dad.
     
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  7. Resist

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    I used 100k as an arbitrary figure. To be direct we are getting a large windfall, more than what I have ever seen before, and all I know is trucking. So I’m not trying to sit on my derrière with this. Been out of the seat for a while, out of service from an accident I’m afraid. Not my fault. Now I’ve seen some good companies and some terrible companies. I’m probably not good to drive forever but I have decades left to build an empire to my liking.

    I was looking at the cost of new equipment and the costs to float expenses and decided 350k is needed to buy a truck, a reefer trailer, some miscellaneous things, and having as large of a financial cushion is possible.

    That profit margin you described was pretty great. I would love to work 6 days a week with a sleeper truck. Take runs from California to Las Vegas. Cali to Arizona. intra state Cali from or to Los Angeles. Cali to Portland. Cali to Wyoming. Take the family on occasion because we love the road.

    Look, I’m a professional. We drove a 20 year old minivan from Los Angeles to Cheyenne Wyoming straight through. Little america was a cool little stop. I continued on to NYC for the first time in life, and was totally impressed with the turnpikes through Illinois , Indiana and Ohio out there. I fantasized about going back to driving and spending months in the snow out there, stopping at rest stops looking exactly similar to one another.

    Who knows if we’d go that way. 2-3 days out and I’m good.
     
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  8. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    You just need to hang around and read current and old posts. I’m not going to outline the steps to making 500k+ per year. If you want to pay me 50k or so I’ll take you under my wing but otherwise you just need to read. I’ll just say there are people running 5 trucks making 500k and there are people running 50 trucks not making 500k.
     
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  9. Siinman

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    Sorry to hear about your Mom. RIP
     
  10. Midwest Trucker

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    +2 @SteveScott my friend. I truly hate it for you my friend. I’m glad you “retired” when you did. Take care brother.
     
  11. Siinman

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    Can I get under your wing? I just need to use one of those new trucks. HA Ha
     
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