Run out of hours while stuck in traffic?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Sixela918, Mar 17, 2022.

  1. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    On the side of the road bs'ing brought back a memory. All the traffic on Mt Eagle used to run on what is now the west side. We were parked for hours. Some guys set up some tables in the middle of the road and were playing cards. Seating was on folding chairs and beer coolers. They were drinking and sharing with anyone that wanted one. They had set some kind of deal for who could play next replacing the losers. It was a beautiful day. They made the time go by much faster.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Here is the definition:
    Adverse driving conditions means snow, ice, sleet, fog, or other adverse weather conditions or unusual road or traffic conditions that were not known, or could not reasonably be known, to a driver immediately prior to beginning the duty day or immediately before beginning driving after a qualifying rest break or sleeper berth period, or to a motor carrier immediately prior to dispatching the driver.

    And here is the guidance:
    Question 5: How may a driver utilize the adverse driving conditions exception or the emergency conditions exception as found in §395.1(b), to preclude an hours of service violation?

    Guidance:
    An absolute prerequisite for any such claim must be that the trip involved is one which could normally and reasonably have been completed without a violation and that the unforeseen event occurred after the driver began the trip.
    Drivers who are dispatched after the motor carrier has been notified or should have known of adverse driving conditions are not eligible for the two hours additional driving time provided for under §395.1(b), adverse driving conditions. The term “in any emergency” shall not be construed as encompassing such situations as a driver’s desire to get home, shippers’ demands, market declines, shortage of drivers, or mechanical failures.

    Note the highlighted portion in red. Weather that is truly unforeseen is covered, but with the advances is weather predicting technology in even the last 10 years, much less 20 there is very few times weather is unforeseen.
     
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  4. JolliRoger

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    The west side I dove off of to fast in the 50's was so steep it would have been hard to kept a card table level enough to play on.:D
     
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  5. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    We were North of the peak at a spot not so steep.
    While you are correcting me even numbered interstates run East and West. How do we have a West side on an even numbered interstate?
    All meant in good fun. Glad you made it down OK. I have no experience trucking in the fifties but a question. Is the area you went for a ride not where there was a run away truck ramp on the opposite side of the road. That may have been years later. Would be great to add to the excitement by crossing traffic in order to hit a ramp.
     
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  6. JolliRoger

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    You were referring to the old road as the West side. The old road is all I know of going down in a truck. Have come up it a few times on the interstate in a car.
    Quite a difference. Somewhere back in here is a post of the detail of that travel. Basically it was a 3 lane, no run outs, and quite kinky. Sign at top said trucks shift to lower gear. Only instructions.. Frank Ashcraft and I baled off in L195 IH's with tarped flatbeds of 70 bales of cotton (at least 70x 500/35,000) in straight 5 speed, 5th OD. So we downshifted to 4th (D) and toddled off. Way down, we came upon a slow moving vehicle and due to circumstances at that exact time, I past him on the left (upcoming thru lane) and Frank past about the same time in the (upcoming truck lane) little crowded there right then.We trailed white smoke on down to the then pull off before the river bridge. That is where the knowledgeable driver stopped to re adjust their brakes after a "controlled" decent.
    (I drove cattle haul in 52-53m junior/senior year high school on weekends. Went to work in 53 after graduated. Was running CA in 57 when the first part of an interstate I had driven was being built in NM. o interstates in TN then)
     
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    Reason for edit: Explain further.
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  7. BoxCarKidd

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    Excuse my misinformation. I was talking about before they changed the interstate. All the lanes used to run together. Around 1986 the East side was separated, added. I was using East and West there by the sun. Some of those sections are pretty close to North and South.
    Thanks for sharing your experiences.
     
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