Am I abusing HOS exemptions too much?

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  1. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    My 2, 1 was probably 15 miles or less and the other one was in the lowes parking lot where I park my truck.
     
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  3. idriveaholden

    idriveaholden Super Heavy Hauler

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    1. Authorized use of a CMV to travel home after working at an offsite location.

    If your company authorizes pc use why can’t he Use it.. Where’s the definition of home why can’t it be your home terminal/base where you park the truck. Everyone’s just assuming home is your house. what if owner op parks his truck at a yard and drives his personal vehicle home
    Can someone clarify
     
  4. Long FLD

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    Because he’s not working at an offsite location. He’s making a trip. And you can’t use PC to continue your trip back. If they let him take the truck home he could use PC from their yard to his house and back. He can’t use it to get back to the yard from his last stop.
     
  5. Bean Jr.

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    Essentially except for the allowances of fining parking when a shipper or receiver kicks you off and moving at LEO instructions, PC is what you would your car for if it were there. Would you leave your truck at a receiver? If yes, then you should be able to use PC. If no, then you can't. But usually in that case, the receiver is your terminal.
     
  6. Six9GS

    Six9GS Road Train Member

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    Guess I don't have to worry much. Once I'm out on the road, I'm always at least a couple hundred miles from home. Only time I get close is when heading for hometime, and I only do that about every 2 months (hey, it's what works for me!!). Besides, I live in Yuma Arizona, why in the heck would I want to be anywhere near there and that heat during the summertime. Winter, well, that's a different story.
     
  7. Lohse

    Lohse Bobtail Member

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    Yeah see this language here is what I was going off, working at the off-site location, the receiver, strapping up the load is the working. Traveling home from whatever point instead of stopping there.

    I think she should be able to drive her truck home and park it if home is within the 25 miles that her ELD allows
     
  8. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Except going out and doing work, as part of your trip, isn’t even close to what the FMCSA considers an offsite work location.

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  9. idriveaholden

    idriveaholden Super Heavy Hauler

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    The following are examples of uses of a CMV that would not qualify as personal conveyance include, but are not limited to, the following:

    1. The movement of a CMV in order to enhance the operational readiness of a motor carrier. For example, bypassing available resting locations in order to get closer to the next loading or unloading point or other scheduled motor carrier destination.
    2. After delivering a towed unit, and the towing unit no longer meets the definition of a CMV, the driver returns to the point of origin under the direction of the motor carrier to pick up another towed unit.
    3. Continuation of a CMV trip in interstate commerce in order to fulfill a business purpose, including bobtailing or operating with an empty trailer in order to retrieve another load or repositioning a CMV (tractor or trailer) at the direction of the motor carrier.
    4. Time spent driving a passenger-carrying CMV while passenger(s) are on board. Off-duty drivers are not considered passengers when traveling to a common destination of their own choice within the scope of this guidance.
    5. Time spent transporting a CMV to a facility to have vehicle maintenance performed.
    6. After being placed out of service for exceeding the maximum periods permitted under part 395, time spent driving to a location to obtain required rest, unless so directed by an enforcement officer at the scene.
    7. Time spent traveling to a motor carrier’s terminal after loading or unloading from a shipper or a receiver.
    8. Time spent operating a motorcoach when luggage is stowed, the passengers have disembarked and the driver has been directed to deliver the luggage.
    I’m just gonna stop using it. it’s literally only useful to go to a store bobtail…
     
  10. Ridgeline

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    You all know that guidance memos are not binding, they are open to interpretation on behalf of the states and officers themselves, so if the guidance said one thing about pc, the inspecting officer doesn’t have to accept it because it is not a regulation.
     
  11. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

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    Why do we have any exemptions. There is no current need for them.
     
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