I cant find the rule from FMCSA.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by usmc3529, Aug 31, 2022.

  1. usmc3529

    usmc3529 Bobtail Member

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    We do interstate transportation, not very often but we will cross state lines from time to time. Because I have a dually they pay a great monthly price for the truck, a handsome hourly wage, and pay for all of the fuel cost. The question that is being brought up is, is it legal for me to put their USDOT numbers on my truck?
     
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  3. usmc3529

    usmc3529 Bobtail Member

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    No I only haul the company I work for equipment from jobsite to jobsite.
     
  4. usmc3529

    usmc3529 Bobtail Member

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    They are not brokers. I only move their equipment from jobsite to jobsite.
     
  5. zodiacflyer

    zodiacflyer Road Train Member

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    If it's being operated by that company, their DOT numbers are required. Who holds the title is irrelevant for the most part.

    A large portion of the assets being used by the big OTR outfits are owned by leasing companies, and not the carriers. Same deal there, the carrier's numbers are on the sides.
     
  6. Ridgeline

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    Ok here is the thing in most of the state … yes …

    One half has you operating under their business and here as in many other states you are required to have registered with the us dot for a dot number and that applies to every commercial vehicle you operate. If the company has an authority, then you have to have their name and numbers on the truck.

    however here is the other half, it has to do with asset leasing, regardless I would follow the us dot/fmcsa guidelines in order to protest you and anyone who drives the truck, especially interstate. Setup a legal lease of the truck, have them make a truck jacket for it and treat it like a tractor being leased to a carrier.

    why?

    because it may be a gray area in your state but to an ambulance chaser that is representing an accident participant, it may be a gold mine to get more money out of you and the company.

    Different type of lease.
     
    wis bang Thanks this.
  7. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    You need a lease.

    In order to use their DOT census number [and be under their insurance] you want everything spelled out in writing.

    You want something that spells out the relationship between parties and the protections [insurance coverage, etc.] spelled out.
     
  8. zodiacflyer

    zodiacflyer Road Train Member

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    Maybe, but that does not materially affect the need to have the company's DOT numbers on the side of any commercial vehicles they operate in the furtherance of company business. And the leases aren't all that different beyond the dollar amounts and size of the equipment. They are still leasing equipment from a third party for use in their fleet. Whether that third party is also a company employee is irrelevant as they are seperate issues.
     
  9. Ridgeline

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    Ok misunderstood.
     
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  11. zodiacflyer

    zodiacflyer Road Train Member

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    Oh... did you think I was referring to Lease-Purchase programs?

    I was talking about the fact that a lot of fleets don't own a lot of their "company" trucks. They lease them. In the case of Schneider, the trucking company doesn't own any trucks. They are leasing them from Schneider finance. Kind of a nitpick, but the only real way to tell that a truck is leased is if the owner's name is on the truck, along with the operators name, you have to have "operated by" over the fleet name.
     
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