Can you swap a engine legally?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Swift09, Oct 17, 2019.

  1. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    Never heard of anyone getting caught yet
     
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  3. pavrom

    pavrom Road Train Member

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    ... Keep dreaming...
     
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  4. Last Call

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    Here you'll need this
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  5. CorsairFanboy

    CorsairFanboy Medium Load Member

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    That's funny but why do you say that?
     
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  6. Last Call

    Last Call Road Train Member

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    No particular reason.. just my personal opinion of a T660 but it's JMO
     
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  7. CorsairFanboy

    CorsairFanboy Medium Load Member

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    Ah gotcha. They're not lookers that's for sure. I think they ironed things out with the new t680s.

    Wish they had the 86inch sleepers still.

    Not a lot of innovation for driver comfort/utility in the sleepers.. I guess they figure we will be out of them soon enough, why bother.
     
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  8. Kshaw0960

    Kshaw0960 Road Train Member

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    Yeah I’m not a fan of T660’s. I would hate to drive one. But it’s cheaper to fix a truck you already have than to replace it.
     
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  9. aqualad783

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    First time posting here, I just looked up the recently updated regulations on the EPA Glider subsections. There isn’t a glider manufacturing limit as of earlier this year, thanks to Fitzgerald’s heavy-handedness, and you can put in a pre emissions engine, as long as it’s installed by a certified glider company.

    40 CFR 1037.635 - Glider kits and glider vehicles.

    In layman’s terms for section B: if you manufacture a brand new truck, you have to put the engine with the matching EPA Emissions standards and model year, with the chassis’ model year.

    Paragraph C, section 2, is where you see the exemptions. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
    “(c) The engine standards identified in paragraph (b) of this section do not apply for certain engines when used in glider kits. These (older) engines remain subject to the (emissions) standards to which they were previously certified.”

    “(2) For remanufactured engines, these (emissions exemption) eligibility criteria apply based on the original date of manufacture rather than the date of remanufacture.

    For example, an engine originally manufactured in 2003 that is remanufactured in 2012 after 350,000 miles, then accumulates an additional 150,000 miles before being installed in a model year 2020 glider would be considered to be 17 years old and to have accumulated 500,000 miles.”

    So if you have a pre-emissions engine, and purchase a glider from a dealership to send off to a glider manufacturer (to be within legal compliance), the engine has to be certified (section D next paragraph below) that it matches the engine model year’s EPA standards, the prior mileage accrued on the engine is provable with paperwork, and the engine meets the ambiguous standard of being a “certified engine still within their useful life in terms of both miles and years”, you have yourself a DEF-free EPA compliant 2023 Glider kit.

    “(d) All engines used in glider vehicles (including remanufactured engines) must be in a certified (for the engine model year’s) configuration and properly labeled. This requirement applies equally to any engine covered by this section. Depending on the model year of the engine (and other applicable provisions of this section), it may be permissible for the engine to remain in its original certified configuration or another configuration of the same original model year. However, it may be necessary to modify (not legally enforceable) the engine to a newer certified configuration.”
     
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  10. MartinFromBC

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    I have many trucks, repowered by different engines than stock, have for more years than I can remember.
    Been inspected too many times to count, and they never once said a word. Last month a roadside inspector opened the hood, said nice Caterpillar.
    I said yes I got rid of useless cummins it had, and dropped in a sweet puddy tat.
    He just said nice job, closed the hood, and wished me a safe trip.
    They don't give a ####.
     
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  11. MartinFromBC

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    $10,000 ?

    Where did you pull that number from?
     
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