Just a side note,,,,,,, I hope you are not sliding the tandems unless the truck and trailer are straight??
You wouldn’t believe how many times I have seen drivers trying to slide them turned.
Why is it better to have the tandems slid forward when alleydocking?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by expedite_it, Sep 16, 2022.
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I added the direction points to the drawing in the photograph in the OP just to make 100% sure that there is no ambiguity. Here is my edit of the drawing in the photograph in the OP:
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P.S. I have discussed this issue with at least ten other truckers, both on the message board and in real life. You're the first person who was able to help me understand this. I needed someone to put a bib on me and spoon feed me this information, which you did. Everyone else just let what you wrote in the quoted post above go without saying. You would probably make a good trainer.Last edited: Sep 17, 2022
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Lester, you are so good at helping me understand this stuff that I hope you respond to this post as well, even though it is a quote of rockee's post. In fact, I invite everyone to respond to this post, not just rockee. Rockee, of course, I hope you respond to this post as well.
Is my understanding correct?
I'm confused. I think most truckers know not to jack the trailer to the point that the nose of the trailer is east of the rear bumper on a sight-side back. So why is everyone mentioning tail swing as being a significant disadvantage of doing an alleydock back with the tandems all the way forward?
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99.9% of the time I back in with them set forward or, as far forward as the load dictated to scale legally.
I'm just much more used to the way the trailer will swing like that, so my backing is more muscle memory than required thinking.
It is actually easier to back with them slid back all the way.
I'm a pretty good backer upper. I might be out of the truck a dozen times or do half a dozen pull ups at some very tight docks.
Maybe you just drove 5 hours, and 10+ that day, and it's dark, or raining, or both, and you're also tired.
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What does the overhang have to do with it? If i don't turn hard enough, the right rear of the trailer will hit something no matter where the tandems are.Last edited: Sep 17, 2022
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Allow Me to jump back in here. I haven't seen anyone mention wheelbase. Your truck does not know how much trailer is behind the rear tandems, right ? You are manuevering your equipment backwards, the steer axle pivots, the 5th wheel pivots, but nothing else. So, wheel base (which is middle of steer axle to middle of rear axle on trailer) is what we are talking about. You could have 10ft behind the rear tandem or 6 in. It's the wheels you are concerned about and allowing for equipment overhang.
Also, when you get a chance, take notice of a set of doubles (2 28' trailers) making a turn in downtown somewhere. Turns probably easier than a 53'. Because there's 2 extra pivot points ( and wheel base is longer !)Another Canadian driver and rockeee Thank this. -
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If my tandems we're all the back I'd never get into half the places I go. Just be mindful of tail swing, if you've been doing this long enough you'll know where the tail we be anyways
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