Chalmers rubber block vs Hendrickson walking beam

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  1. earthmover

    earthmover Medium Load Member

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    my old dump rides a little rough empty but preety good loaded...but i do need new shocks so anybody know where to get a good set(4) for the back of my dump???also the rubber blocks are kinda high if you have to replace them i think i paid 800.00 but they wanted 800.00 put them in and told me you need special tools.. i said ok came home had them in in about 2hrs jsut got to think outside the box...lol mike
     
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  3. 98989

    98989 Road Train Member

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    best thing stay away from this classic T ride is best choice

    simpler cheaper even lighter better angle of bogie and flexibility....

    and with parabolic springs more comfort better traction better service life of springs

    springs on parabolic suspension can least 15or more years ( 15years is lifetime for bottom spring it dont break but it is tear/wear because of friction)

    other springs can least more
     
  4. Floyd

    Floyd Light Load Member

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    has anyone tried either of these conversions for the hendrickson beam suspension?
    Conventional air is great, but the off road capabilities aren't as great as the beam suspension because of lack of articulation. Seems like the kit would give you the best of both worlds. I have several trucks with either Hendrickson rubber block or spring suspension. They are great for off road but the roads here in Maine are TERRIBLE so the trucks and drivers get beat to death.
     
  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    I just have conventional air ride on mine...but I've been drooling over the air-walking beam set-ups since I first ran across them. I hadn't seen them yet when I bought my truck, and the ONLY reason I didn't get a truck with the Camelback suspension is because we have air gauges tapped into the suspension on the trucks and trailers to help judge the loads since there aren't always scales available at the shippers....so I HAD to have air ride.

    If I were spec'ing a new truck, it would have the Raydan Air-Link....simply because it is available with a heavier rating. Also, they advertise that they have rubber blocks in the bags that limit suspension sag when the air is dumped...so if you blow a bag, tear an air line to the suspension, have a valve go bad, or run into any other situation where you have to run with the airbags deflated, it won't damage the drive line or anything else. I haven't seen that the AR2 has anything like that, but I also haven't seen that they don't....and I haven't been able to talk to anyone that knows, either. What I HAVE seen is that the AR2 can only be had in ratings up to 52K....which in MOST circumstances would be OK...but I'm a big fan of overbuilding. Get the most you can afford and spend your time out in the field WORKING instead of in the shop having parts repaired/replaced that should have been spec'd heavier to start with.
     
  6. 98989

    98989 Road Train Member

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    for me only classic T ride lowest costs good stability great off road capabilities

    here is what some of trucks works here

    this truck have 110 000lbs on both rear axles

    so anything with air is not good

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    if i could chose best thing is hydraulic suspension but it is expensive
     
  7. dillydog24

    dillydog24 Light Load Member

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    How does the TufTrac compare to other rubber blocks? Specifically stability. Coming from a 40k air trac grossing 75k
     
  8. stranger

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    I've been driving Hendrickson Haulmaax for the past four years, and I really like it for dump use. It's very stable, doesn't lean much, and rides very good for a walking beam. Does very well off road too.

    I've been surprised at some of the places I've been that I was able to get in and out of. It helps a lot that I have axle lockers along with the power divider to make everything pull together.

    I see Hendrickson has upgraded the Haulmaax to Haulmaax EX, changing a few things around, but still the same basic setup.
     
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  9. FinkPloyd

    FinkPloyd Light Load Member

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    Hendrickson haulmax is all the company I work for uses. Between it and Meritors dcld, ive gotten out of many muddy jobs. The amount of travel you have is great for crawling through ditches.
     
  10. AModelCat

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    I haven't seen a dump truck built the last 2 decades with walking beam. Ancient technology IMO.
     
  11. stranger

    stranger Road Train Member

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    Our 2018 and 2019 trucks have Haulmaax. Haulmaax isn't the old Hendrickson RT & RTE suspension. It still has a walking beam, but the suspension is dampened from the beam, not swiveling around like the old RT series.

    I was skeptical at first myself, but now am sold on them for combo on and off road trucks that need more than air suspension can deliver.

    If I ordered a new dump, It would have Haulmaax.
     
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