Rock in the stream: the Safety Dept. lied to you!

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Hammer166, Nov 15, 2022.

  1. staceydude

    staceydude Road Train Member

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    That scenario you speak of as far as running through DFW in the right lane and only touching the brakes 4 times must’ve been the best day of your life. I live here and have run DFW east to west and north to south and I have had one or two of those days (normally at 0300 in the morning) Otherwise it doesn’t matter what lane your in your gonna get on the brakes way more than that. I’ve tested all the lanes. Middle, left, right and all those in between. Hell, just the way it flows through town you can not stay in the right hand lane without braking and making lane changes.

    I do agree riding in the right lane with other like minded drivers makes it flow. However I could head through DFWright now with the cruise control on and last all of 3 or 4 exits if I am lucky because there is always one jackazzz who doesn’t even think about your speed and is either scared of the big bad truck or thinks it can’t hurt them in their smart car. It depends on where I am going and how I plan to get there that determines my lane going through the metroplex, often making the lane changes to get into which lane you need to be in on the mix masters is way more dangerous and stressful than being in the correct lane for the destination.

     
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  3. ducnut

    ducnut Road Train Member

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    That was January 2016 and the last time I went through there. The change in driver attitude, at Gainesville, was such a turnoff I avoided taking loads that travelled I-35. It’s probably a whole different animal, these days.
     
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  4. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    I started to leave this alone, but the highlighted portion is such bombastic blowhard-ness, my first thought was CB19 was bleeding over.

    I'm assuming your reaction was from my GTFO comment, because if you'd read the OP, you'd know your characterization is totally off base. My threads are to make drivers think, and not blindly follow the pablum spewed by the safety idiots.

    My GTFO was frustration at the pedantic "It doesn't say you can speed" argument, which was irrelevant to the ongoing discussion. It in no way was an endorsement of the Billy big rigger scenario you present in the second half of your post. It was merely to refocus the discussion back to the original topic.
     
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  5. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    You should have left it alone

    You've heard that saying "assuming"? No, it was pretty much everything that you are offering.. its NOT telling drivers to think at all. You're whole premise is the issue and I've heard it all before.. Your comments are also straight from CB19..

    Was it? I disagree... again, Smith isn't perfect for every scenario and neither are your suggestions. The main reason (to me) that your whole premise is that there is some magic place out there were if you're going 90 in the middle lane that morons are STILL not going to be passing you on both sides, The Smith System teaches that you are to look for the path of least resistance, in areas where there are a lot of ramps, that means (usually) that the middle or staying out of the right lane is the safest choice due to vehicles slowing and entering the flow of traffic, leaving yourself an out is totally relevant to that situation. Once you get out of those towns, of course the right lane is the better choice so some billy big rigger doesn't run into you.
     
  6. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    You're right. The insistence that this is about "Get out of my way!" clearly demonstrates I'm wasting my time.
     
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    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    Or you really need to work on both your presentation and assumptions
     
  8. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Since the entirety of the OP is only about the truck doing the rock in the stream and its effect on that driver's workload and the surrounding traffic, I'd suggest the problem is related to reading comprehension.
     
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  9. DannyB

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    In urban areas that I'm not real familiar with, I run the second lane for the simple reason that whomever designs the roads likes to suddenly turn the right lane into an exit ramp. Not wishing to play the "uh oh! time to switch lanes at the last minute" game, I stay out of a lane that might not be a travel lane at all. Not sorry, IMHO, the right lane should ALWAYS be the right lane. Until that happens, I run the second lane.
     
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  10. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Reality is....This has been the norm for a generation now...therefore we’ve jus gotta deal with it as part of the everyday nonsense in this industry today....Course if ya got a truck an a real motor...and you’re in that much of a hurry....
    Well I’ve been known to jump out to the left and whoop whoop
    But I don’t play well with others;)
     
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  11. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    The premise in A: Nonsense and B: has the whoop whoop agenda in it. Get over it already.. its been stated by several posters without an agenda WHY the premise is nonsense. The rock in the stream is a poor description at best. The rock is perfectly fine with the stream rolling past it.. it's not even bothered by it. Mainly because the rock will never be able nor should try and keep up with the stream. The numbers don't lie, the research has proven time and time again. The same old whoop whoop nonsense. GTFO... super truckers have the right of way,, same tired old song from the broken record.
     
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