Local Driving Opportunity?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by 2Tap, Dec 10, 2022.

  1. 2Tap

    2Tap Medium Load Member

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    I'm too old for Sysco and Upper Lake Foods probably. My 32 year old nephew warned me it's a young guys game. Much like beer distribution you're hustling unloading/delivering everything yourself off hours. I'm certainly not against hardwork but managing mine and my prospective employers expectations can be challenging even though i'm always upfront in the interview of there is one.

    I simply want local then regional and someday otr driving experience in that order for not only easing into driving/familiar roads/rules but pay. I learned that there isn't much guaranteed otr UNTIL you have experience.

    Adding linehaul, thanks North Pole Nightmare

    Adding ABF, R&L & FedEx, thanks Hawkeye72! KwikTrip/Star is certainly on my radar once experienced. Good local company that we are very proud of in Sconnie! CDL/Truck/Driver was a little vague and I was constantly organizing by date posted to weed out all of the bait & switch companies like TA constantly posting spotter jobs @ $32 an hour. Every time you contact them that position was just filled and would you be interested in driving otr?

    As always thanks ChinaTown, nice to know companies will consider lighter loads as experience. Do you, Martin or any of the other members here with back office exp. know if this will satiate driving experience in regards to driver insurance rates?

    Also should have added that by no means are there not opportunities for new drivers and i certainly don't mean to come across as picky but i've poured considerable time and money into this new occupation and it's time to work! I'm fortunate to live in a good freight market, an hour south of Milwaukee and an hour and a half north of Chicago but don't really want to begin driving down there for lack of experience reasons. With that said at least i somewhat know the roads and it was much easier than Atlanta!
     
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  3. North Pole Nightmare

    North Pole Nightmare Heavy Load Member

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    I just saw a local linehaul yesterday,it's 19 miles on I 59 southwest of Houston,just run back and forth between the companies 2 terminals.
    Probably won't make 100 k on that job,but it looked easy and you're home every night.
     
  4. 2Tap

    2Tap Medium Load Member

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    Appreciate the good info on terminology, Thanks!

    Regarding my experience. Didn't want to do community college training time&money.

    Knew that this "starter" company wasn't being forthcoming during training but knew i could get my CDL-A with them and didn't really care after that. If they would have been forthcoming with me I would still be driving there. No detention pay was the biggest deal killer even though detention pay was clearly stated in contract/employee handbook. Spoke with corporate HR, blah blah. Not my 1st rodeo. It's simply business= I lost $320 that week for 12 hour i could have been driving. Detention pay would have only been $230 but it's still something considering the low per mile pay.

    Trainer was pretending he was in the Army still, trying to prove something while towing the companies hardest core rhetoric such as no idling and no personal conveyance. After an hour of sleep the first night on the bunk camper mattress pad in Indiana (low of 17 that night) i froze my ### of in the exact bag he told me to bring. Had the pleasure of him slamming the truck door twice when he had to pee. Zero consideration for others i guess, his truck. Following day drove my clock out through those Appalachians. The company has a clearly articulated policy on trainees and jakes. It was snow/rain mix and i violated said policy using jakes at his instruction. Technically i know what happened, he ran his clock out 1st and you can't predict weather. Pulled into Albany, GA day 3 and was so dehydrated that i was light headed and internalizing how pissed i was at this inconsiderate person. Never met a man so focused on themselves that's all they talked about. Day3 we went to WalMart and i stocked up on what provisions i could and the rest of the week was pretty smooth sailing all things considered. The most comical thing about this trainer was he had no clue i was former Army until he started along some tirade about his time in the suck, started getting specific with operations around/supporting The Battle of 73 Easting. I said to him oh yeah? I was doing EPW Ops between Hafir el Batin and Basra, where were you? His answer? The most used "stolen valor" response ever, "It's classified."

    So yeah, acquaintance of mine through said same company sponsored training has a polar opposite trainer, good guy. Getting miles and taking good care of him team driving. I didn't have the experience this guy did and wasn't interested in learning how to drive while my trainer is in the bunk. That was coming the following week even though they have a policy against that.

    I could ask for a new trainer sure.... but no detention pay? Moving along and will happily send them the full remittance for my CDL-A when they send it. So far all they sent was an exit survey but they neglected payment to fill that out. It's just business.
     
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  5. 2Tap

    2Tap Medium Load Member

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    Also, i have no ILLUSIONS about making 100k. If i had ten years of experience and i needed that much... sure.
    I'm old & wise enough to play that balance game.

    Money isn't everything. Time, the most valuable of all resources you can't get back.
     
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  6. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I'm convinced. It sounds like you did the right thing. These days lots of newbies quit for slight differences or getting a taste of HOS. I'd really recommend you require any company you research put you in contact with current working drivers at the company doing the job you are considering. Websites & recruiters are not information. They are advertising. Good luck & thanks for serving the nation.
     
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  7. Goldenfan

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    2tap what company was that that you started with? Can you pm me with the name?
     
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  8. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Go apply to a company like Centerline Drivers, they will send you to place to drive like Toyota Motors, parts division or Carquest autoparts, Pepsi ( New Bern transportation), I have been sent to Whole Foods, UPS, US Mail companies, etc.. no will know much while your building experience. I dont think I had any bad experiences doing call out casual driving. Plenty of work, when you find one you like go direct to them if you want.Just somethinf else to think about.
     
  9. 2Tap

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    Therein lies the problem tscottme. Once i was "with" the company i had all sorts of access to other company driver opinions at terminals and docks. It was quite humorous listening to my trainer ask other entity drivers what they felt about equipment, pay etc. He did enough about facing, i could see the writing on the wall as far as what i expected, honor the contract/detention pay and TRAIN.

    I know i have aired a lot of complaints now regarding the trainer and company. I would rather focus on the positive, i got a shiny new cdl-a license for 5 weeks of my time, a lot of research and about $3500, school+hotel & incidentals. A bargain compared to the $7500 my community college wanted this spring for their 1st openings. I see those guys out there on the range, milling about kicking the tires and putting out fires. I also have more jobs to apply to and call backs even if i do end up rejected based upon the same experience i list in my Resume. Apparently some recruiters don't read those.

    I will be employed Monday statistically speaking. 3 interviews but only one of the jobs would give me CDL-A experience and let me play on their manuals and possibly test and lose that restriction down the road. We'll see.

    GoldenFan, i've read a few of your posts and see where you are, i think. You really can't go wrong with Halvor, Roehl or Millis here in Sconnie. Out of all of the college credits i have earned only those in "Professional Communication" also known as Interviewing & Interrogation as taught by an ex-secret service/state dept. employee have i found EXTREMELY helpful throughout my working life. I'm sure any of those three lie to their employees and their employees lie to them one way or another. The beauty is in seeing through BS quickly and moving on if need be. Life can be one big dung heap we are all trying to climb.
     
  10. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    That lack of OTR experience is going to be killer. It's always good to try and stick it out for a full year before looking for other opportunities. Some people will say, nah you don't need to. The ones that say that had Lady Luck on their side. Good paying local gigs can be tough to land sometimes but that's because you'll never find a shortage of applicants. If you pad your resume with experience, endorsements, and a clean record, you'll have the entire industry open to you.
     
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  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    But if you are talking to drivers at the company you can discount the opinion from newbies or company-men. The company website and the recruiter are only going to give you the optimistic version on steroids. Insist you can't make a decision about joining the company until the recruiter has a few experienced drivers at the company, doing the work you are applying for, contact you. Feel free to have those drivers put you in contact with other drivers at the company on the same account. What I've seen is many newbies really really try to make the whole process online only. That produces the worst results, IMO. The desperate applicant interprets the recruiter/company exaggerated hype as the floor, not a ceiling, and they also discount any bad info as sour grapes from one or two hard cases that can't be happy anywhere. The company and the conditions are not going to change after you join a company. Since the fit between the company and the driver is what determines how successful the project is for you, your best chance for success is from sufficient and accurate research BEFORE you start at a company. If someone was just asking any random driver at the company "do you like it here" it's not research. It's looking for an excuse to join a company to avoid more research.
     
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