Commercial driving education for non commercial drivers

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by easternguy101, Dec 12, 2022.

  1. PaulMinternational

    PaulMinternational Road Train Member

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    I have to laugh at the High pressure part.
    My dad was good at having you drive to crowded areas that he knew kids from your school would be in eyesight and have you do your parking right there. Make you or break you! Mess it up you were the talk of the town, get it right and that cute little blonde you have your eye on just might be your next passenger.
     
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  3. bryan21384

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    That would make a nice elective at the college level, I endorse the idea!
     
  4. Thrasher28

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    The challenge is making them care. Knowing about trucks doesn’t mean they’re going to care, especially for some elective class that they only chose because it’s easier to pass than the alternatives.

    You don’t have to be a rocket surgeon to know that passing on the right because trucks moved over while a road service repair is happening on the shoulder is a careless act, but I still see it daily.
     
  5. easternguy101

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    I see. I didnt know they had them in the us educational system.
     
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  7. PaulMinternational

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    So the question, is the right lane open for use?
    If so wouldn't those working it be safer if you simply slowed down and stayed the course. Instead of cutting over and trying to slow everyone down?
    If the lane is open for use its open for use for a reason! By cutting left and slowing down your partly creating the problem. Let me guess you don't slow down you just happen to already be going slower than the flow of traffic!
     
  8. Thrasher28

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    Not sure where you saw that I move over AND slow down. If a line of traffic is all moving over for a wrecker on the shoulder and doing 67, then me moving over at 68mph would be matching the flow of traffic, correct? If I don’t move over, then the entitled person going 80 will simply pass me on the left and cut back into the right lane to pass the next truck anyways, so how do you suppose me staying in the right lane would be more safe? Not to mention, they always easily slow down to the speed of the left lane and fall back in line when it’s a cop. It’s just a shame that a ticket motivates people more than human life. And to your first question, by most states’ move over laws, no the right lane is not open for use when possible to move over.

    I don’t think a Prime truck doing 62mph is in the right by cutting over 20 feet in front of a truck doing 70mph, but they’re not in the wrong if they have enough space behind them to move over and still give traffic time to adjust their speed.
     
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  10. PaulMinternational

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    You said closed shoulder for work, My interpretation was shoulder being worked on but right lane still open to traffic. Went by this very situation today and as always watched a bunch of drivers cut left at speeds way lower than traffic flow. Then as always the cars and a couple trucks that had to hit the brakes went zooming around on the right.

    So let’s chalk it up to a misunderstanding.
    Just went and re read your post, that will teach me to try and think before my morning coffee.

    By the way most states law says to move over but if not able to do so safely because of traffic that you then are to slow down as you pass.
     
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  11. PaulMinternational

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    This is what is posted on the PA police web site. Not word for word how it’s listed in statute but it gets the message across

    “Pennsylvania’s Move Over Law requires drivers approaching an emergency response area to move over to a lane farther away. Drivers who are unable to safely merge into a lane farther away from the emergency response area are required to slow to no more than 20 mph below the posted speed limit. An emergency response area is where an emergency vehicle has its lights flashing, or where road crews or emergency responders have lighted flares, posted signs, or try to warn travelers.”
     
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