Well fuel tanks are exempt from hazmat anyway...but that amount would hurt your gas milage
As for the weight, ok, i guess i was wrong. Oops.
Non-CDL use?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Freighttrain, Jan 30, 2010.
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I'm not sure if this info is relevant here with what you'all were talking about but I was wondering WHY it says below that diesel tanks can't exceed 119 gallons and we have semi trucks that hold 4 times that amount. And from what I can tell below, Gasoline isn't allowed at 119 gallons, Only diesel is.
What I was really wanting to know was, If you and I interpret the below D.O.T. regulations to say that gasoline and Diesel can be stored in a container for use by the engine and thus "materials of trade" then it would seem that SEMI's are getting away with having more fuel than 119 gallons in each tank because EITHER 1) those that have more than 119 gallons in EACH tank do so because they have HAZ MAT endorsements OR 2) its loosely regulated by D.O.T. or anyone can have more than 119 gallons if you can prove that you use that much fuel over the course of 8 days (a log book week)
And then the other thing I was wondering, you see I'm wanting to power my truck with 20%PROPANE/80%DIESEL. PROPANE, by the way, weighs 4.24 pounds/gallon and thus the below regulation suggests that my maximum 220 pounds of FUEL "propane tank" (which is 51 gallons) could maybe be interpretted as the maximum for "ONE" tank but if I prove that I use more in a week then I could mount TWO (51 gallon tanks)of them on my truck.
Is that how you interpret it?
Fueling precautions
§392.51 Reserve fuel; materials of trade.
Small amounts of fuel for the operation or maintenance of a commercial motor vehicle (including its auxiliary equipment) may be designated as materials of trade (see 49 CFR 171.8).
(a) The aggregate gross weight of all materials of trade on a motor vehicle may not exceed 200 kg (440 pounds).
(b) Packaging for gasoline must be made of metal or plastic and conform to requirements of 49 CFR Parts 171, 172, 173, and 178 or requirements of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration contained in 29 CFR 1910.106.
(c) For Packing Group II (including gasoline), Packing Group III (including aviation fuel and fuel oil), or ORM-D, the material is limited to 30 kg (66 pounds) or 30 L (8 gallons).
(d) For diesel fuel, the capacity of the package is limited to 450 L (119 gallons).
(e) A Division 2.1 material in a cylinder is limited to a gross weight of 100 kg (220 pounds). (A Division 2.1 material is a flammable gas, including liquefied petroleum gas, butane, propane, liquefied natural gas, and methane). -
I hope this settles it .
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbS5FntBYXyHNZfl55-duDScuTJVQQ
I believe this is where the IRS comes in . No business expenses are deducted .Last edited: Feb 18, 2010
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Hmm...Doubt we will see Rick G and Roadmedic on this thread again.
Perhaps someone should consider revoking their "Truck Forum Supporters" status.
Absolutely amazing how much misinformation I see on this forum. I don't know alot about trucking regulations but this area is one that I spent tons of time researching and talking to DOT, FMCSA, State Police, etc to make sure I was legal. -
You doubted wrong . How can a link to n FMCSA regulation be "misinformation " ?GasHauler, Mastertech and Bogey Thank this.
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Just because you have a differing opinion don't mean their "Truck Forum Supporters"status is going to be removed.
I haven't read the whole thread but I believe Rick backed his posts up with a link to government site....that's good enough for me. -
Ummm.... go back and read the posts. You yourself just admitted you have not read the whole thread. Are you even for sure what Rick's position on this was?
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