Hours of service questions and answers

Stop for two hours before the 14 you "extended" runs out, and your 14-hour clock resets, starting at the end of the 8-hour sleeper berth break.

Its not something you do everyday, except when it makes sense.

- Get up, drive to a reciever - your 14 has started.

- Wait around while the unload. Drive to the next shipper. That's usually a good portion of your 14.

- Wait around while you get reloaded - I'm talking an SLC deal where you can stay in the truck. So now you've probably burned about 2/3 of your day... but you really haven't driven much. Lets say you've driven maybe 2 hours, got some line 4 time, 3 hours line 1/2 at the receiver and 4 hours line 1/2 at the shipper... for a total of 10 hours (or so) out of 14.

You can drive the remaining 4 - but you probably are "fatigued" at this point from all of the waiting around. Or, you can go to sleep for those 4 hours and finish out an 8-hour sleeper berth break.

So instead of burning 10 hours and driving another 4, you've used a total of 6 hours. That's the time at the receiver and driving to and from them. The other 4 hours in the sleeper combined with the additional sleeper time allow you to drive the remaining 8 before you take a 10-hour break.

On a tight schedule, you're 4 hours ahead of the game at this point.

Stop for two hours before that 14 runs out, and you've reset that 14-hour clock. There are a lot of times this can allow you to make a run legally that you couldn't if you adhere to just taking 10-hour breaks.

BTW... I really wouldn't count on the HOS changing significantly. Too much money riding on keeping the wheels rolling... ATA and trucking side. Or not rolling... shipping/recieving side. Public Citizen doesn't bring any money to the table, so they're just whining to hear themselves biotch about things.

 

......if everything is supposed to be soooo much easier to do with all this log book ruling, why is it soooo much harder to do?

 

Thank you for the post. VERY HELPFUL!!! I am looking for information about hot to log bobtailing and in-transit. In-Transit would be to pick up new trucks/trailers to bring back to the yard for DOT etc. NOT for hauling freight.

 

Wow. I never split logs before. I found most of these examples very informing. Still a little confused about it. Will have to practice it out until I get it. Nice examples. I had an inspection once. The dot man came back and said "Driver! there ain't nothing wrong with your truck, but your log book...". My log was very pretty and perfectly "legal". It was too "by the book'. I didn't say anything. I just looked at him. I wasn't going to incriminate myself. He gave me my log book, and down the road I went. I just didn't understand his problem with my "legal" logbook. There really wasn't anything he could do. Ah, the fun days. I did get caught once in MO. Gosh I hate those Odessa scales. I was legal, but I had just forgot to draw my line down. Argh. it was a load over Thanksgiving and I did it as a favor. The company paid the log fines because of this, and never heard a word about it. They stopped me going in for bad brakes or a crack in the frame, whereas I had to wait for a welder going in, and when I came back through the next day, they got me for something else. Did I say I can't stand the Odessa scales? I never had any problems anywhere else in the country. Ah, the good ole days. Thanx for the thread. Haven't thought about split-logging in many years--now I want to learn it.
Thanks
Temptinfates

 

So, my father decided that he wanted to become an O/O and things are doing pretty well since we started officially working this Monday. There is only one slight little problem... My father now told "so did you find out what to do with the driver's logs?" and when I told him I had no idea what he was talking about, he wanted to bite my head off...
I guess my question is how do I turn in the driver's logs to DOT or whoever it is I have to send them to? I'm very lost and even the companies trying to "provide" me with service are very confusing... Someone help me please!

 

If hes an OO and has his own authority, he doesn't have to send the logs in to anyone. Just keep them on file for 6 months.

If hes leased on to another carriers, Im sure he needs to send them in to that company's safety office.

DOT gets nada unless they come in and audit at your place of business. Thats why you need to keep them on file for viewing.

 

omg thank you so much, everybody just kept trying to sell me things!

 

I got a bridge...you in the market for a bridge...really cheap...almost a steal!